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    Tindrrel's ST-1

    So this is an ST-1 I bought in the 3rd Anniversary Sale. Seemed like a good excuse to buy another kit.

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    Still figuring out what I'm going to do with it.
    - Sam

    IB-5 - was finished, considering re-finishing body
    IB-6S - done.
    JR-1M - dressing frets and electronics build
    ST-1 - still wondering how to install a tremelo
    Telebass - non-PBG from parts buiild - painting body

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    nice one Sam, I got one of these as well for stocks. Looks like you have been bitten by GAS mate hahha
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    Quote Originally Posted by wokkaboy View Post
    nice one Sam, I got one of these as well for stocks. Looks like you have been bitten by GAS mate hahha
    Had GAS for a loooooong time. This must be the modified version of GAS where you build them yourself.
    - Sam

    IB-5 - was finished, considering re-finishing body
    IB-6S - done.
    JR-1M - dressing frets and electronics build
    ST-1 - still wondering how to install a tremelo
    Telebass - non-PBG from parts buiild - painting body

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    So learning new build skills. I wanted to do a veneer. The basswood ST-1 is a bit plain, so it seems like a good candidate.

    I have some camphor laurel bookmatched veneer.

    Cut a cardboard template to see what it might look like strat shaped...
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    And again, slightly moved over.
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    hnnng...

    Hopefully there'll be some veneer left to do the headstock as well.

    Things I don't know about applying a veneer? Just about everything.

    Questions I've thought of so far:


    • What sort of glue?
    • How to cut the strat routes, before or after gluing the veneer down?
    • Should the veneer be soaked to flatten it or just pressed flat when glued?
    • When veneering a headstock, glue it before or after shaping?
    - Sam

    IB-5 - was finished, considering re-finishing body
    IB-6S - done.
    JR-1M - dressing frets and electronics build
    ST-1 - still wondering how to install a tremelo
    Telebass - non-PBG from parts buiild - painting body

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    GAStronomist wokkaboy's Avatar
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    nice one Sam,
    how thick is the veneer ? You will probably have to soak it before applying as there are alot of rounded edges on a ST-1 and the elbow cut. I use kwik grip to glue it on
    http://www.bunnings.com.au/selleys-5...sive-_p1233573
    I glue the veneer before cutting the shape.
    Current Builds and status
    scratch end grain pine tele - first clear coat on !
    JBA-4 - assembled - final tweaks
    Telemonster double scale tele - finish tobacco burst on body and sand neck

    Completed builds
    scratch oak.rose gum Jazzmaster - assembled needs setup
    MK-2 Mosrite - assembled - play in
    Ash tele with Baritone neck - neck pup wiring tweaks and play in

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    Quote Originally Posted by wokkaboy View Post
    how thick is the veneer ?
    It's 0.6mm sheets.

    Quote Originally Posted by wokkaboy View Post
    You will probably have to soak it before applying as there are alot of rounded edges on a ST-1 and the elbow cut.
    So you apply it while it's still soft from soaking?

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    I glue the veneer before cutting the shape.
    Both the routing and the outline? So glue on some rectangular pieces then cut it to match the edges?
    - Sam

    IB-5 - was finished, considering re-finishing body
    IB-6S - done.
    JR-1M - dressing frets and electronics build
    ST-1 - still wondering how to install a tremelo
    Telebass - non-PBG from parts buiild - painting body

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    Hi Sam,
    yes I dry off the veneer after a good soaking, then apply the kwik grip, follow the instructions and then put a flat sheet ontop of the veneer and clamp.
    For the body veneer I'd cut the rough outer shape which you have done. Don't cut any internal shapes as the final position of the veneer you won't know.
    Once it's dried you should be able to feel where the edges are. Get a sharp blade out and start cutting the cavity, very carefully
    Current Builds and status
    scratch end grain pine tele - first clear coat on !
    JBA-4 - assembled - final tweaks
    Telemonster double scale tele - finish tobacco burst on body and sand neck

    Completed builds
    scratch oak.rose gum Jazzmaster - assembled needs setup
    MK-2 Mosrite - assembled - play in
    Ash tele with Baritone neck - neck pup wiring tweaks and play in

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    Quote Originally Posted by wokkaboy View Post
    yes I dry off the veneer after a good soaking, then apply the kwik grip, follow the instructions and then put a flat sheet ontop of the veneer and clamp.
    Doesn't that mean the elbow angle wouldn't get clamped?

    What sort of preparation for the front of the guitar? In fact, do any sanding at all before getting the veneer glued down?
    - Sam

    IB-5 - was finished, considering re-finishing body
    IB-6S - done.
    JR-1M - dressing frets and electronics build
    ST-1 - still wondering how to install a tremelo
    Telebass - non-PBG from parts buiild - painting body

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    GAStronomist wokkaboy's Avatar
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    I've never glued veneer onto a curved top such as a ST-1. You may have to wedge something in between the top sheet and the veneer to hold it down onto the elbow cut.
    In the past I haven't done any preparation on the front. Just make sure the surface is clean before you apply the kwik grip
    Current Builds and status
    scratch end grain pine tele - first clear coat on !
    JBA-4 - assembled - final tweaks
    Telemonster double scale tele - finish tobacco burst on body and sand neck

    Completed builds
    scratch oak.rose gum Jazzmaster - assembled needs setup
    MK-2 Mosrite - assembled - play in
    Ash tele with Baritone neck - neck pup wiring tweaks and play in

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    Should I do one piece at a time or try and do them together? One at a time seems like it would be easier to line up and keep lined up.
    - Sam

    IB-5 - was finished, considering re-finishing body
    IB-6S - done.
    JR-1M - dressing frets and electronics build
    ST-1 - still wondering how to install a tremelo
    Telebass - non-PBG from parts buiild - painting body

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