GlennGPs Tele #2 ("Tanias Red Menace")

[GlennGP]

Quote from Gavin1393 on October 7, 2013, 11:12[/b]
... If you don't glue the nut in it might slip during the middle of your Van Halen solo and that would destroy your tuning!

Hah! I wish!

But still, thanks Gavin, I'll do as you suggest.

Also, any thoughts on the switch wiring? I've seen a diagram in the last day or so which suggests I may not have this quite right. The obvious test would be to wire the pickups and output jack to the panel and problem solve that way, but hey, asking you guys is much more fun!

[WeirdBits]

It's hard to be sure from the image of your switch wiring, but it looks to me like you are missing a wire bridging the output of the two commons (assuming you have the output on the common lugs and the pickups connected to your short jump wires). With CRL type switches each side of the wafer is a separate 'pole', or circuit, so each side needs some link to the output, depending on your wiring configuration.

Here are two different Tele diagrams for 3-way CRL type switches, just pick the one that makes the most sense to you and use that:
Di Marzio Tele style (output connected to common lugs on switch)
Seymour Duncan Tele style (pickup 'hots' connected to common lugs)

From what I can see in the photo of your switch, you seem to be wanting to use the 'output on switch commons' like the Di Marzio diagram, but you don't yet have the wire across the switch linking the two common lugs... I think.

Hope that helps.

[Brendan]

Glenn - having seen Gav glue in a nut and remove one safely - if you use a tiny amount across the bottom of the groove (think thin strip) - you should be right if you do want to remove it / re-place it.

[GlennGP]

Thanks Scott, kind of what I suspected. I have the SD diagram, which proves to me that when I think I have something worked out I should second guess myself! I'll z do some testing and sort it out.

[WeirdBits]

In case you are still wrangling with your switch, I took some photos of a CRL 3-way today and added some annotations to hopefully help with your wiring.

The CRL has 2 poles, or separate switching circuits, one on each side of the wafer, in this case red and blue. Within each circuit there is a common lug that is always connected, labelled lug 0. So the red 0 is always connected in the red circuit, blue 0 is always connected in the blue circuit. The first image shows how the lugs are linked in each of the switch positions, from top to bottom, giving Bridge, Bridge & Neck, and Neck respectively. The second image shows an 'output on common lugs' wiring diagram overlaid on the switch giving you that standard Tele layout of Bridge, Bridge & Neck, Neck shown in the first image (with 'Output' going to your Volume pot). Sorry about the text colours in the images, I was trying to get something that would differentiate but still be visible at all sizes.

If you look at the sequence of images in the first pic and overlay that with the wiring in the second image, you should see the following:
In the 'Bridge' position, the red 3 and red 0 are linked, thus connecting the Bridge hot to output, blue 0 and blue 1 connect to output but add nothing.
In the 'Bridge & Neck' position, red 2 and red 0 link the Bridge hot to output, and blue 0 and blue 2 link the Neck hot to output.
In the 'Neck' position, red 1 and red 0 are linked but add nothing to output, while blue 0 and blue 3 link the Neck hot to output.

CRL 3-way switch contact sequence


CRL 3-way standard Tele wiring (output on common lugs)


Does that make sense?

[GlennGP]

Scott, I'm a visual learner and that, my friend, is chapter and verse to me. Nicely done, I have it now. Please post this again in the "Wiring Pick-ups" area, I'm sure people will find this very useful.

[Gavin1393]

Very nicely done!

[GlennGP]

In other news, we have one finished and polished Carmine Gypsy body, ready for assembly!

[wokkaboy]

looking sweet Glenn, how many coats of top coat did you apply, was it a gloss or satin ? appears to have a nice gloss finish

[GlennGP]

Wokka, that's (in order) 1 coat deep colour, 6 base coats, 2 more coats deep colour, 1 more base coat, then 4 coats extra gloss top coat. Then cut and polish with Turtle Wax polishing compound and scratch remover. Pretty pleased with the result!

[edited - I looked back a few pages and discovered I'd got the number of base coats in each bracket wrong!]