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    You are a better man than I. Here's my solution to the string spacing conundrum...

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    I often think that some of the most interesting builds result, at least partially, from problem solving. You have taken that to the next level ;-)

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    fender3x: yeh...if I wasn't so anal about the visual accuracy I too would have gone with a similar single coil version.

    Edit: After soldering the coil to the leads there was a slight mishap, and I had to remove the epoxy I used to anchor the leads on one lead and re-solder since the multimeter was showing an open circuit. After managing to connect the coil , it's not quite as tidy, but there wasn't enough slack in the coil (I had used some CA glue to stop the end of the coil from moving, or I would have removed half a wind)

    The pup weighs in at 6.7k.... I was hoping for better than 7k, but it's still fractionally hotter than the '51 Fender pups which were about 5.8k. There will be two of these and I haven't thought far enough ahead to work out if the two together sharing the same tone and volume will result on more volume. Simon would know.
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    I think it should be louder if you wire them in series. Are you going to do a reverse wind on #2 to make it humbucking?

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    Are you going to do a reverse wind on #2 to make it humbucking?
    No, I had thought about it, but all the images I have seen show a gap between coils, two distinct pups.

    I have already wound the second pup. i won't worry about it this time, but in future I will have to use a different material. Maple at 1.5mm is too flexible and the top of the pup is curved up. It's more pronounced on the second one. I think something like Ironbark or box brush would fare better, maybe gidgee,

    This time I timed it. I took it up to 17% and with breaks to check progress it took 15 mins. the whole thing starts to vibrate if I go much past about 20% power.

    I've orderd some 44AWG just to see if I can wind it without snapping it. It will be a bit of an experiment. Have no idea how it will sound.

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    It may still work. I think all you really need to do is turn the pickup upside down. So with one pup the North poles are facing the strings and on the other the South poles are facing the strings. I have just been doing a little recon on this because I have a couple of Dano pickups on a bass. The traditional "both on" setting on them is series, which is definitely louder than either neck or bridge pup alone.

    I have them off the bass at the moment while it's being refinished...and found a mod on-line for getting them to be humbucking in series.

    http://dennysguitars.homestead.com/D...ml#anchor_1034

    Don't follow the bizarre Dano wiring chart...provided for the explanation only ;-)

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    fender3x: that looks way too busy for me. too many pots and switches. One volume. one tone, no switches, that's it. and reversing poles means turning the whole thing upside down and the spindle is designed to be mounted at the bottom. Humbucking is not required.. probably be a wall decoration for the most part.

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    I know what you mean. I built the wiring harness, for a lipstick tube pickup bass and it was a bear. I am in the process of a refinish and have been toying with the idea of doing the humbucking mod...but it would involve using a heat gun to disassemble the pickup...and it seems like more trouble than it's worth. It's only really a problem if you have a bad buzz. And, of course, it's never a problem when the bass is hanging on the wall ;-)

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    It's only really a problem if you have a bad buzz. And, of course, it's never a problem when the bass is hanging on the wall ;-)
    Aaaaaand.....distortion fixes everything

    In the process of ripping off the basic design of the mojotone tensioner. Winding those first two pups has been good experience but I'm still not happy with the way the flat work on the top flexes up so I'm going to make more pups with probably iron bark or spotted gum instead of the maple.still not sure what specs I'll use for the 44 AGW experiment.

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    You may find that you have a market. It seems to me that there is a huge interest these days in the '51 p-bass type pups. It used to be that you needed to pay a fortune for them. These days Sentell and Benson both have hand wound '51 pickups that won't require refinancing your house. Like you, Benson is using interesting woods in for their bobbins. Sentell has a huge range of custom and old style pickups. Don't know if anyone is doing this kind of thing in AUS...but it would make one heck of an upgrade option for PB kits.

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    Kinda odd. Personally I prefer the split type of p-bass pups. Maybe people are digging the single coil sound. My partner in crime, the guy who does mostly Les Paul style instraments did mention a guy here in Aus that does hand wound pups, but I think they are spendy.

    I have some 2mm metal grommets ontheir way. I'm hoping for a neater result for joining and anchoring the leads to the coil. Even though I won't be using the two pups I have wound so far, I can use the second one to try this idea out.

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