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Thread: IB-1S (to round me out to three unfinnished guitar projects)

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    I think I'm going to name this one the "disaster blaster"...
    Problems with streaky and beading varnish.. and ultimately, peeling off, of entire layers ...

    Oh well ... at least now I get to do it all again !

    I discovered that isopropyl alcohol helped me take all the varnish (and stain) off from the spalted maple without much risk of rubbing through...

    (I also suspect that using the same as a cleaner between varnish coats is what lead to the issues in the 1st place...)

    image 1 and 2... The problem!
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    image 3 ... The long road to recovery ...
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    Using the ispropyl alcohol and rough plastic scouring pads brought me back to the raw finnish.
    I've also sanded the back and sides back to raw wood too .... back to square one !

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    “Dog nuts!”

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    well ain't that a kick to the crotch. Chin up bro, we've all had similar finish fails.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankenWashie View Post
    well ain't that a kick to the crotch. Chin up bro, we've all had similar finish fails.
    Was disappointed to start with, but glad it all came off without ruining the veneer. I think my three coats of sanding sealer saved my bacon. Almost ready to take a deep breath and stain again..

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    "Dog nuggets" more like.
    At some point you'll be glad that it happened as the second attempt will no doubt be an improvement.
    I'm always happier after having a second go at something.
    cheers, Mark.

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    OK...
    for the stain I used Feast Watson Prooftint (which is I think, spirit based) kind of explains why the Isopropyl Alcohol worked so well in cleaning it up.

    I'm NOT going to try the varnish again ....
    So my question is ....
    Clear Acrylic top coat, clear Nitro, or something else ?
    (I do want a glossy finnish...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by king casey View Post
    "Dog nuggets" more like.
    At some point you'll be glad that it happened as the second attempt will no doubt be an improvement.
    I'm always happier after having a second go at something.
    cheers, Mark.
    Yeah... some of it has definitely been improved, but I have made few different blunders 2nd time around ...
    Still moving forward though.

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    Well here we are in a new year and the Mibanez is still hanging up in pieces.
    I decided to, (rattle can), nitro the body, and have been going at it disparately, since before Xmas....
    Eventually I felt it was good enough to start polishing, but on close inspection (and thought), have decided another couple of coats of nitro would be wise. Surprised at how thin it goes on !! Very conscious about sanding or polishing through.

    Hopefully I'll get the extra coats on over the next w/end or so, and then let it air for another week or two... then start the polishing.
    Once again... looking forward to just finishing this one, and assembling it to play.
    I'm planning to dry sand, very careful and VERY lightly before the cut and polish.
    (My sloppy and far too wet sanding on the Mossie led to some unfortunate blemishes. Definitely not letting that happen to the 'Nez) !

    Don't tell my Missus, I've already ordered a 'tele, with plan in mind, to stain and oil.
    Although I am going to hold off on the Flying Vee for now ... (for now...)...

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    I've run into two issues with the jack socket on the 'nez and am looking for a little reassuring....

    The socket doesn't take the whole plug...
    The photo shows how far it sticks out. It does actually work OK like this.. Is this normal with that type of socket?

    The other issue is that the socket appears to seat nicely in the body, but doesn't protrude out into the control cavity. So I can't get the nut onto it, to hold it in. Wondering how everyone else dealt with this?

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    I found that i had to actually perform some surgery on the control cavity wall to:
    1. Get the nut over the end of the Jack thread
    2. angle the control cavity wall so that the nut would sit flat against it and pull straight on the thread

    See below, your cavity shape may differ as this was an earlier version of the kit

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    the red lines are the material i had to remove to get the jack end exposed and the angle on the wall i introduced.

    All I did was get a similar sized dowel to the through hole, allow that to protrude though the cavity and measure off a 90 degree angle to that dowel. Then you just measure how long your jack is, and pare away the wall to get to the appropriate length. I did this with some careful chisel work as there is not a flat plane to set a router on, though you may be able to do similar with a dremel sanding drum or cutting wheel, or perhaps a multitool flat blade.

    I also found that the flange on the jack was almost size on size with the outer part of the hole, you might be able to get around this by trimming down the rubber washer behind the flange, or, you may need to run a dremel 80 grit barrel sander bit around the inside of the outer hole in as deep as you can.
    if you do it that way, keep the dremel moving and don't let it sit on one spot or you'll create a groove. You need to go carefully so as not to bash the dremel into your guitar face or sand through the thin edge of the jack hole.

    Hope this helps!
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