Thanks Simon, a wealth of information as usual, even though I looked it up on the inter web, it still took me 4 hours to set it up and tune it ,but I did get it in the end. Unfortunately the high E sting had a small kink in the end, right next to the tuner and eventually snapped while tuning so I temporarily used the no-name string that came with the kit. It was more like a dent in the string than a kink, as the string was perfectly strait. Never mind, all good now, thanks again Simon.