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    I would have put the sanding sealer on after the stain. I can't help but feel that any sealer going on first is going to inhibit absorption. I hope the re-sanding does the trick though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Barden View Post
    I would have put the sanding sealer on after the stain. I can't help but feel that any sealer going on first is going to inhibit absorption. I hope the re-sanding does the trick though.
    That was the idea....to ensure an even absorption of the stain....especially end grain. Two light coats of it are highly recommended when using stain/dye as opposed to paint.

    The spray sealers.....like some of the vinyl sealers are designed to go over colour finishes prior to using a clear coat.

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    Amazing how Basswood doesn't need much sanding.

    Just wiped down my MMB4 with a damp cloth tonight and straight out of the box there super smooth shiny areas already. Nothing that some 80 & 120 can't sort out.

    Colour looks, err, umm, very orange in those shots Ozzie. Is it that loud in the flesh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wazkelly View Post
    Amazing how Basswood doesn't need much sanding.

    Just wiped down my MMB4 with a damp cloth tonight and straight out of the box there super smooth shiny areas already. Nothing that some 80 & 120 can't sort out.

    Colour looks, err, umm, very orange in those shots Ozzie. Is it that loud in the flesh?
    Yeah is an amazing wood.

    Ha ha ha....very orange....gonna darken to something like this...I hope. 😎
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    The plan moves and turns.

    My plan for the colours of this build have changed over time.

    I am using mixes made from the U-Beaut range of water based timber dyes.

    http://www.ubeaut.com.au/dye.html

    The ORANGE...yes Wazza it is loud... ... is made from mixing orange and yellow.

    I covered the whole body with this to provide a base colour for the rest to float over.....bad words....but I hope you guys get the image.

    I have left the majority of the raised section in the middle of the front of the body with the orange colour.

    Then I used a mix of the Orange and Cedar colours around the outside and basically over the wings of the body.

    Then finally a stripe/wipe/burst of the pure Cedar around the outside to complete the burst.

    The two photos were taken straight after I had rubbed the dyes in...still wet.

    I will do some more coats to deepen the colour and to even out and feather the edges of where the colours meet.

    The ORANGE will peek through the darker colours and I hope it makes a good effect. I can't wait to see what Tru Oil does to the colours and the grain.

    P.S. Much much much easier to work with the dyes at 240 grit sanded body....just saying to myself....duh.
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    Turn it over Dave...turn it over.

    After an hour or so for the top colours to dry a little....so they don't smear as I work on the back.

    The back is done. More coats to even and feather to come.
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    nice work on the burst Ozz, looks great !
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    Yes, it's looking good.

    Just go gently with the staining, it's easy to overdo it and get it too dark. Remember that any clear finish is going to darken the wood as well. Do a light rub over with turps or metho to get an idea of what it will be like when finished. Try not to rub too hard with a cloth as you are likely to loosen some stain, so maybe brush it on. You only need to do a small area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Barden View Post
    Yes, it's looking good.

    Just go gently with the staining, it's easy to overdo it and get it too dark. Remember that any clear finish is going to darken the wood as well. Do a light rub over with turps or metho to get an idea of what it will be like when finished. Try not to rub too hard with a cloth as you are likely to loosen some stain, so maybe brush it on. You only need to do a small area.
    Simon, I love your interest, intent, and information.....but gee bloke you are one tough audience. Ha ha ha. 😎

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    That has toned down the Ranga element a fair bit and like the sound of the end game.
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