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    On the ferrules ...

    Normally just proud. The traditional versions have a small lip on them to keep them on top of the body. I'm sure you could get some flush-fitting ferrules, but you'd have to be very careful drilling your insert holes. Too shallow and the ferrule ends poke out (and would be very difficult to remove), too deep and the string tension would pull them into the body (unless you also glued them in place with epoxy).

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    Quote Originally Posted by dave.king1 View Post
    Depends on your level of OCD
    Haha, Yes, I guess it does. What I actually meant was you could do it in multiple configurations depending on your final design. You could ZigZag the holes, put them on a slight diagonal, or a V like suggested earlier by Wokka!

    Quote Originally Posted by WeirdBits View Post
    When you say "12 in total" is that 6 rear and 6 top mount ferrules? Just checking.
    I actually bought 12 of the rear mount ferrules not thinking/knowing there were different ones for the top. Do you think I need to get proper top mount ferrules?
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    I had a feeling you were going to say that, hence my question.

    Yes, you definitely need the top mount ferrules. They're smaller, use a much smaller hole and their edge is designed to take the string safely. If you tried to use a rear mounts on the top you'd not only have the unecessarily oversized ferrules ruining the looks of the guitar but their edge would probably instantly cut your strings under tension. They're just not designed to be used on top.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WeirdBits View Post
    I had a feeling you were going to say that, hence my question.

    Yes, you definitely need the top mount ferrules. They're smaller, use a much smaller hole and their edge is designed to take the string safely. If you tried to use a rear mounts on the top you'd not only have the unecessarily oversized ferrules ruining the looks of the guitar but their edge would probably instantly cut your strings under tension. They're just not designed to be used on top.
    Message received, time to go shopping on Ebay!! Thanks for explaining that Weirdy!

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    I've seen ferrule in a couple of different layouts on Fretking guitars and in a V on a V

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    Finally a minor update, after doing a bit of sanding and drilling the string through & ferrules finally marked out what has to be removed for the bridge pickup.

    Just need the rain to stop for long enough to set up the bench outside and do some butchery with the multitool, chisels & Dremel.
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    The 3 saddle top loader kit bridge Vs the correct style Wilkinson 6 saddle string through bridge.
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    A break between showers so I thought DK why not get into it, so out with the weapons of war
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    Cut with the Multitool done time for the chisel
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    The end result, pretty happy with that ( put the blue & white apron away now )
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    good work DK, love your outdoor workbench !

    just be aware the Wilkinson bridge you won't have as much saddle adjustment. Think others have replaced the screw on the stock bridge that sets the position of the saddle if they need to be set more forward than the Wilkinson screws will allow. When you get the pup in maybe check the intonation measurements.
    Looks like you didn't do any damage to the quilt top either !
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    Quote Originally Posted by wokkaboy View Post
    just be aware the Wilkinson bridge you won't have as much saddle adjustment. Think others have replaced the screw on the stock bridge that sets the position of the saddle if they need to be set more forward than the Wilkinson screws will allow.
    Yeah there isn't as much travel but don't forget the length of the pressed saddled make up the length difference.

    I set the bridge position with the E1 saddle at 80% extended is there is adjustment in it and the rest of course are incrementally closer to the backing plate.

    Swapping the kit screws for the Wilkinson screws was what I did with the first non PB Tele but in both cases they were 3 saddle bridges, this Wilkinson is a six saddle and the kit 3 saddle so not enough screws or springs

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