Yep, they're the ones Stan. They look good, feel good and can play reasonably well but need a lot of setup (at least this one did). Definitely some QA issues that wouldn't be good for a first time buyer.

Based on this one I'd say the quality is a couple of steps down from similarly priced LTD's, but the LTD would be plainer (basswood vs mahogany etc). But, for a half-price mahogany set neck SG as a potential upgrade platform... bargain. Worth a look if you see them on sale, you may find a good one.