TL-1H.....Tele Deluxe

[OliSam]

thanks Wokka / Weirdbits
1. hum stops when I touch strings
2. it changes slightly in different pickup positions
3. in the middle position the bridge volume acts as a master volume

the wiring is so tight I cannot get a decent shot of it all without disconnecting wires and slipping the whole thing out.

Q. I have used the thin drilled holes to route the wires which has made it a lot tighter.

Do you think if I cut the body over the drilled hole passages (turning them into little trenches) it would make it easier to remove/replace/rewire and not affect anything else?

I feel that it should be ok...your thoughts?

spaghetti pictures:





I am now tired and confused and I think I'll call it a night.....

[pablopepper]

A bit hard to tell exactly what's going on, but I can't see a bridge ground. Do you remember tucking a bare wire under the bridge before you screwed it down?

[zeromick]

dammit... I didnt know you could get these tele delux kits

This is not good news for my bank account.... Love the build and the 70s headstock!

[WeirdBits]

A lot of the solder points, particularly on theback of the pots, look cold/dry instead of the solder flowing smoothly. That can contribute to ground related noise. Scratching/scuffing the back of the pot with a file/blade/sandpaper then tinning it with some solder before trying to attach the wires to it can make it a lot easier, it give you a better connection and helps to minimise the heat soak into the pot.

Are they insulating washers you have under the pots, is the jack's ground connected to the pot backs directly? And, is your cavity shielding linked to ground via a wire. A multimeter can be really helpful to check that you've got good connections between your grounds and shielding etc.

Also, in the 1st image, there appears to be an uninsulated black & yellow wire join (hard to tell) on black pickup wire yet on the grey pickup wire the yellow looks to be the hot to the pot. Has that come loose or is something else happening there?

I wouldn't start digging into the body to open up the wire paths. Just add some extensions to the wires to give you some more slack if you need to. But, undoing the pots from the pickguard should give you enough access to work on it for now, no?

[OliSam]

Hi Pablo. yep. there is a bridge ground. (however I may check it again as it may have come loose in all the giggling around)

Hi WeirdBits. I scuffed the back but didnt tin them before trying to solder the wires on.
As such it was hard to make it all "stick" - hope i have not over heated the back of the pots......(big lesson learnt there) I'll check that again when i get home.

yep. insulating washers (just thought....is this an error? should the pots be touching the shielding?).

yep. jack connected to ground via back of pot.

nope. cavity shielding linked to ground via wire. Do i have to do this for all cavities?

undoing the pots - i will un-do them and put them into a sheet of cardboard. this will make it less cumbersome to move around and hopefully create more slack in the wires.

uninsulated wires. they were all ok when i loaded them up. will have to recheck once i get the pots into a piece of cardboard.

phew!

I am absolutely loving this.....

thanks heaps dudes.

[OliSam]

ThNks Zero!

[OliSam]

how much fun is this!!
rewiring



and I have discovered the sucker-up-er-er
great tool!

[OliSam]

well that was tiring and unfruitful......
I suspect my three way switch is not working properly.
that's enough for now. more tomorrow....perhaps third wiring lucky?

[WeirdBits]

You said that the bridge volume is acting as master in the middle position, right? Are you definitely getting sound from the neck pickup in the middle position (and in the neck position)? A bad switch can potentially cause noise but for the bridge volume to function as a master either the neck pup isn't being connected or there's something askew with your wiring. You could always disconnect the switch and clamp the three wires (bridge, neck and output wire) together to check for noise and if the volumes are both working.

As far as insulating the pots from the shielding, some do but most don't. All your shielding needs to have an electrical link to ground for it to work effectively. So, allowing the pot bodies to touch the shielding is one way to provide that ground connection (assuming at least one pot's casing is linked to ground). The down side of this is that you can sometimes have the underside of your pot lugs touch the shielding and short out, and/or if your pots are all already linked to ground you can have multiple grounds paths which is generally discouraged. With the way you have your pots insulated you'll need to make sure that the shielding on the back of the pickguard is making contact with the edge of the cavity shielding (when it's screwed down) and have the cavity shielding linked to ground etc. or something like that. If you get what I mean.


Btw, in those earlier pics had 4-wire pups, yet above you have the stock 2-wire versions... or am I going mad/madder?

[OliSam]

hi Scott
yes. 4 wire pups from an old guitar