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    grain filling question

    I have a lp jr. double cut mahogany kit that I am starting to finish. I have sanded down to 400 and I am getting ready to start grain filling. Now, should I use vinyl sealer then grain fill, or grain fill then use vinyl sealer? I have seen it done both ways, but would like to know what you guys think?
    Also, should I wipe the body with a damp cloth to lift the pores, or should I use naptha or denatured alcohol?
    I would appreciate any help and tips you guys could share.
    Thanks so much

    Ps.. I am going to finish in TV yellow.

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    Moderator dingobass's Avatar
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    Firstly, wipe the body down with a damp rag to lift the end grain then sand and repeat.
    Personally, I like to grain fill first using Timbermate watered down slightly and applied with a rubber scraper.
    Then sand back and check it and if the pores are nicely filled attack it with the undercoat/ sealer.
    Always allow at least a week between coats, regardless of what the instructions on the paint label says

    There is always a workaround for glitches, mistakes and other Guitar building gremlins.....

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    What should grain filler look like?

    So I've never used grain filler before.

    I got some Behlen Mahogany grain filler and wanted to do a test.

    Not having any spare mahogany, I used a bit of pine plank.
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    After some sanding, applied the grain filler as per the instructions on the tin.

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    Lumped on and spread with a rubber edge spreader diagonally to the grain.

    Left to dry for a week (not intentionally that long), then sanded it back.

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    The grain filler sanded off into a fine powder much easier than I though it would as it seemed to have dried quite hard.

    So...

    Is this what it should look like?
    - Sam

    IB-5 - was finished, considering re-finishing body
    IB-6S - done.
    JR-1M - dressing frets and electronics build
    ST-1 - still wondering how to install a tremelo
    Telebass - non-PBG from parts buiild - painting body

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    Looks good to me.
    As long as you cant see any holes, valleys or bomb craters I would say it was a success

    There is always a workaround for glitches, mistakes and other Guitar building gremlins.....

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    looks good.
    A test my Dad taught me for checking smoothness (this was for painting cars): Shut your eyes and run your hands over it. If it feels smooth , it is.
    If you can feel an irregularity, you will see it when you paint it.

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    And if it's still not smooth, repeat the grain filler?
    - Sam

    IB-5 - was finished, considering re-finishing body
    IB-6S - done.
    JR-1M - dressing frets and electronics build
    ST-1 - still wondering how to install a tremelo
    Telebass - non-PBG from parts buiild - painting body

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tindrrel View Post
    And if it's still not smooth, repeat the grain filler?
    yeah, but be realistic too, and the paint will fill a little too

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