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... covering Lulus' "To sir, with love" and there's a big, chiming chord - probably a stratocaster - in the middle of the intro section which I think I've worked out as an F6sus4; it sounds right on guitar and even on the keyboard so it's gotta be close...
For those who like to play with this sort of thing, it is XX3031, or F, G, D, F.... and is hit quite firmly over the four strings with an angled pick for best effect...
Anyone care to play this game with me? :-)
My ears aren’t great, but I love chords. Can I play?
Why are you calling it F6sus4? Looking at the notes F6/9 comes to my mind. Even a G7 (obviously without the 3rd) depending on the situation. I just had a quick listen and there aren’t too many clues surrounding the chord in question.
Oops; sorry Mark - a bit slow in responding!
Typo, mate - I should have called it F6sus2, which is still clumsy, I know, but on the keyboard it's the root, the second and the 6th, so I did wonder about the F6/9 but seeing as it's the second and not the octave of the second, that's what I called it. My chord theory is a little shonky and I'm absolutely willing to be corrected!!
You're right about the not many clues, though, and it's out there on its' own, to boot, and the melody is tending towards D...
With another 4,398 members out there you would think someone would know and put us out of our misery. I thought I would cheat just had a look at the sheet music in images. Most of the song were in C or A. In some of the A versions it starts with A followed by a Asus or Asus(add9), But there are many and various versions (including E7). Perhaps the guitarist just liked to make their own chords up? I read a sus chord leaves out the 3rd to be replaced by the 2nd or 4th (9th or 11th). With all the various versions substituting their own chord into the introduction I suspect you are not the first person to have issues with this chord. I bet it’s one of those ‘ask two people and get three answers’ kind of questions.
Love it! Especially that second chord.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy123
I found this site really handy for identifying oddball chords. It agrees with F6sus2, but also gives G7(no3), G5/F, Dm(add11) and Dm(add11)/F as alternatives.
One of my favourites at the moment is Radiohead's Exit Music for a Film, which has:
Dadd9/F# (2x0230)
Dadd9/F (1x0230)
Gmadd11 (3x0313)
D7/F# (2x0212)
All of which sound great. The Gmadd11 is a handful.
I suppose that what you call it depends on where you start; i.e. the root note, and the addition of the F octave just add another layer of complexity, eh!!!
Ooooh, yeah.... that Gmadd11 is indeed a monster in that position; I wonder if there's another inversion that is easier to play??
Do we know what the bass is doing at this point? It might be the missing piece of the puzzle.Quote:
Originally Posted by corsair
Try this D something:
X54630
you have to use an open c handshape with your pinky on the g string
sounds cool to appregiate it
I’m a simple man in many ways. I would of called that Dadd9/F# as Dmajor9, Dadd9/F as Dminor9 and D7/F# as D7.Quote:
Originally Posted by G-Axe
I guess I’d call it a Dmajor9. It’s got the 1,3,7,1(8 if you prefer) and 9.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy40
Have a good look at Paul Kossof's chord work he was always there which you have to be in the lineup that Free had but some of his shapes.were very interesting.
A wondeful and massively underrated player and gone way too soon
Bass is silent and the strings are holding a C pedal tone. I think I may have the sound, too; I used an electric 12 on the neck pickup, coil split and hit the 4 high courses quite hard and quickly while muting the low courses. Sounds pretty damn close!Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy123
What I find interesting is that the chord will change names when you change the spelling or take the inversions up the fretboard.. and the scale will change which allows a different note selection when soloing.
So, that F6sus4 with a F in the root note position changes when you make the G the root note and becomes G7... and when you make the D the root, you get (almost) Dm11...
.. great fun!
Can we call it a C9sus4? And if so, what situation would we use such a chord?
YOu'd use the notes associated with the extensions for soloing, well, I would - not too sure I'd use the full chord; pethaps a partial would be enough to suggest it?
Even with my rusty and shonky chord theory, I'm really enjoying this!!
Ok, here is one I have in an arrangement of My Funny Valentine, it’s obviously an Abmaj7 chord, but what is it? Abmaj7/14/17?
E 4
A 6
D x
G 5
B 8
E 8
Bit of fourth finger stretch, but you get there.
Love My Funny Valentine.
Got this one from Burn for You
E 4
A X
D 4
G 3
B 0
E 2
At first glance I’m guessing a Ab9(or G#9). But why repeat the b7 on the 1st string? A melodic reason? What’s happening in the chord progression?Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy40
Edit: ok, I didn’t notice the open B string.
I make it Gm9...
G#, A#, F#, B....?? It chimes nicely with that open B!
Agreed. B is the flat 3rd. G#m9.
Hopefully Andy40 has the answer for us.