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Hi,
looking for user opinions on amp heads - ideally somthing like a Micro Terror or Vox MV50.
I wanna upgrade from my old Valvestate VS30r - just for home use, recording and shed jamming. the valvetste struggles with loud drumming.
I was thinking of making a 1 x 12 cab or even 2 x 12, maybe even 10's depending on price. on a budget as usual. (also saving for a LP kit :D)
please tell me your thoughts and opions and even good websites to buy from.
regards
Guv
mate i think one of the best course of action would be to go to a guitar store and try as many smaller amps as you can, they are so different from each other.
Having said that - the micro terror is cool. the Vox night trains seem cool... enjoy the search
Both the Vox and the Orange you mention have solid state power amps and, like the Valvestate, the Orange has a tube pre amp, so the Tiny Terror will probably be less powerful volume wise than the Marshall.
A 2x12 cab might make up for that. Bigger speakers push more air.
A move to an all tube amp, such as the Night Train that Stan mentioned, will give you a significant volume increase even though the "wattage" has gone down to 15w.
You can also go online and check out some demo videos on youtube too, I reckon the Micro Terror is a pretty good little amp for what it is, but as what one other forum member has said in this thread, there's no substitute for going to a music shop and trying out the amps for yourself, if you do that make sure that you bring your guitar with you to the shop since that's going to give you the best idea of what the amp is going to sound like in your shed.
I have a Tiny Terror and a Vox VTX20 (that I beheaded and made into a head unit) . The Vox sounds significantly better feeding a 12 inch quality speaker instead of the 10 inch no brand that was in the cabinet. I prefer the Orange clean tone going into a 12 inch Jensen Falcon over anything I can get with the Vox's modelling software.
The vox head i been lookin at appears to be pretty new, cost round $330.00, i'm hopin somone here has one or heard them Vox MV50
http://www.voxamps.com/MV50
They have only been out a few months, haven't seen one in a store yet, a few reviews on line for them but I haven't seen one yet from someone who isn't in the business of selling them LOL (yea I'm very cynical about reviews). that 50w rating is at 4 ohm, so its about 25 into an 8 ohm speaker btw
Guitarist magazine video demo here. They gave all three versions 9/10, which is above average.
http://youtu.be/qxwXWTMjRpg?list=PLD...SxrQLb4tu295bk
Always difficult to know exactly how loud these things go but I'd suggest a 4-ohm 2x12 cab for maximum output. The printed review stated that though a 4x12 it was loud enough for small gigs. As most 4x12s are 16 ohms, that's closer to a 17W output (though in reality that's only about 3dB down on the full 50W in terms of power output and a lot more variation in volume will come from the chosen speaker's efficiency.
Walk with care on the box impedence and make sure you fully understand your amps specs, my big amp is 100W RMS into 4 ohms and I left my brain outside the door when I wired my quad box of 8 ohm speakers in parallel and blew the output stage into the weeds.
@Simon. The big amp is an H||H IC-100S handwired MOSFT amp made in the UK a million years ago and is something of a rarity these days, however at our weekly recording get together I discovered my mates son's Laney amp has an H||H speaker, Laney bought up all the old H||H stock back then but the brand has resurfaced mainly in the PA area which is where they started.
My Fender Mustang is rated into 8 ohms and nothing below so through the quad in series parallel it is massive.
BTW. the four Eminence speakers in the quad are good for 700W RMS as a combo 2x200 & 2x150 so I'm certainly not worried about them.
Laney have never been as popular as Marshall, but they have made and continue to make some very nice amps. I must admit I'd never fancied even trying one myself as the local music stores tended to only stock their cheap transistor amps. But I've more recently tried Laney Lionheart and Ironheart amps, and they are very nice indeed.
I didn't realise that HH had resurfaced. Never heard of their PA kit - which I find odd. They certainly had disappeared for a long while. My mate Ivan used to run an outfit that sub-contracted the construction of quite a few of the HH amps.
I dimly recall that the HH speakers were re-badged Fane units (though I could be wrong) and it's probable that they re-badged Celestions as well at times. But they were certainly at the low end of the scale and generally got a bad press and a quick upgrade was often recommended. I'll try and find out.
Most of the speaker cones in UK-built speakers were (and still are) provided by a company called Dr Kurt Müller, based in High Wycombe (about 20 miles from me) to the speaker company's requirements.
Looks like HH initially re-badged both Fane and Celestion speakers (the Celestion was a modified G12H). Then in the early/mid '70s they then started a sister company, HH Acoustics, to make their own speakers. The 12" PL-50 model was the one fitted to the IC100/100S and VS combo/cabs, and I've now seen references to the PL-50 being fitted to some Laney amps.
Andertons' review of the VOX MV50.
http://youtu.be/NAoOKUN8gkc
Look what I Bought....... :)
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Hartke-VX...53.m2749.l2649
Don't really need it, but I have wanted a Quad for a while.
Nice one Hobastard I also spotted this on eBay great price for what should be a great cab. Nothing larger than my 210 Eden cab is allowed in our dwelling ;)
good work Hoby, I have the same 4 x 10 Hartke cab and then found a cheap 1 x 15 cab so it makes the house shake nicely ahha
what head you got powering it ? I got the Hartke 350 watt head.
I have a Peavy Megabass Head. It's a Rack mount 2x200W Biamp capable Beast. I bought it New in the early Nineties and absolutely Love It. It also has a sweet onboard Chorus that only works on the "Top Speaker" so if you're biamped, it only choruses the highs and the bottom end stays clean and solid. In Full Range, you get a Chorused Speaker and a Dry Speaker.... almost stereo....Quote:
Originally Posted by wokkaboy
It also has "Power Sharing" so if one Power amp is not working hard, the other can draw more current as required and will run well above rated power output.
I think it will make this Quad Box Sing..... although I hope the Horn can match the sweetness of the Boogie Bullet in my current top box.......
It normally runs a Carvin/Boogie based 2x10 and an EV15. when you play the low B string, everyone in the Venue gets Dirt in their Hair...... so a Quad plus a 15 , well, the mind boggles.....
sounds like a mega setup Hoby, bet you can't wait to get the cab in your hot hands,
Absolutely, Wokka, can't wait. But will have to, until mid August when my Mate brings it down to Tassie for me.....Quote:
Originally Posted by wokkaboy
I'm also starved for Gigs at the moment, having just exited a marriage that required me to give it up, I'm back to square one.
I was invited to sit in for two songs (I was a bit rusty) last Friday Night unexpectedly and was like a Dog with 2 Tails afterwards..... matter of fact I'm still Grinning. 17 years is far too long between Gigs.....
Best part was, a couple of the Musos asked for my number.....
Great to hear that you might be back out on the circuit and blowing plenty of dust around. Reckon with as rig that size I might just hear you from way up here haha.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hobastard
@ Guvna19 So how did you go with that little amp?, did you get the pm I sent back to you?
Hey Doc, Got your PM thanks , good advice as allways.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrNomis_44
Havnt touched the amp yet, apart from looking inside with a torch. I figure I could take the steel case of safely and inspect the tubes without opening the unit or get close to the circutry.
On the same day I also got a Boss Gt-6 which has kept me occupied learning how to drive it , good fun.
Also started looking into a speaker for the tube amp and a DIY cabinet of some sort. keep spending money i havnt earned yet...lol
Guv