G-Force!

Hello All

There is a lot of discussion around the Gibbo G-Force tuning system, so here is a review that will be conducted over the next few weeks!

I have in my possession a 2015 LP Special that is basically a double cut Junior with a couple of P90's whacked in. No issues with QC on this axe. The thing is Pleked and set up very nicely.

The one thing that struck me as different (besides the tuning system) is the wide neck. You get the same feeling when you jump from an electric to Spanish guitar. If you have small hands and use a lot of thumb technique it would be a struggle. Lucky I'm 6 ft 4 with monster hands....

Early days with the G-Force but useful for dropping in and out standard tuning, open G, drop half step and back again etc.

The sticker of Mr. L. Paul on the back reminds me of a famous Chinese leader.

That's it for now folks. More to follow..

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Cool!....I'm interested in seeing how this review pans out, good to see that Gibson have gotten rid of the Corian nut and replaced it with the adjustable brass zero-nut system, make sure you include that in the review.

Doc, I have to ask...what is your issue with Corian nuts?

Interesting specimen, Andrew. Honestly though, I know it's a small thing but I just cannot get over that signature on the headstock.

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Doc, I have to ask...what is your issue with Corian nuts?

Interesting specimen, Andrew. Honestly though, I know it's a small thing but I just cannot get over that signature on the headstock.

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I know what you mean about the signature, its not very subtle unlike the usual decal. Its more 'kids felt tip' pen style than fountain pen.

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Doc, I have to ask...what is your issue with Corian nuts?

Interesting specimen, Andrew. Honestly though, I know it's a small thing but I just cannot get over that signature on the headstock.

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It's not so much the Corian material itself, but how Gibson cut the nut so that the nut slots could be cut on their Plek machine, the back of the nut falls away from the front at a steep angle, this causes problems with sympathetic ringing behind the nut because the string isn't being supported, also the string tends to bind (stick) in the nut slot when you're tuning the string making it hard to accurately tune each string, I experienced this issue with the Corian nut on my LP Studio guitar before I replaced it with a Graphtech Tusq XL nut.


Gibson were getting lots of complaints from customers and luthiers about the Corian nuts they installed on their pre-2015 guitars, hence the reason why they have now changed to the new Brass adjustable zero-nuts.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NW-DTdO2DAc

Ah, as mine is a 2008 it might be too early to have been PLEKed. Never had an issue with the nut binding. I was actually quite impressed with quality of the Corian.

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Ah, as mine is a 2008 it might be too early to have been PLEKed. Never had an issue with the nut binding. I was actually quite impressed with quality of the Corian.

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I think they started Plekking their guitars around 2011 or so, I could be wrong though, since my LP Studio is a 2013 model it would most certainly have had both the frets and nut Plekked on their Plek machine.


If you click on the link I posted and watch the youtube video, the guy explains that the Plek cutting tool can cut well up, down, and horizontally, it has a hard time cutting angles though.

nice one Ponch where did you score the axe is it yours or a loan ?
interesting review can't wait to hear what these robot tuners are like and how the P90's sound and how the brass zero nut goes.

Didn't know you were 6'4". You must intimidate motorists when you step off the Kwaka and walk up to their car !

Ah Woks, mine for the time being but is to stay within the family. Yes, I am a bit of a bean pole.

My ES looks like a Uke when I hold it and my Kwaka is a bit too small - no wonder I'm not taken too seriously lol!

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bwhahahha nice one Ponch, can't you just get a custom made 30% bigger Kwaka built for you so you are taken seriously ?

That means you can have a 6 pipe 1800cc super Kwaka !

I pity the neighbors though when you fire it up before 7am !

Or you could go for a Rocket 3...

http://youtu.be/HKEuzxC4eGc

And, what the hell is a plek?

Hey Lozza good to see you on the forum again ! Funny video but that Triumph Rocket III is a beast - checked it out 2300cc should have enough grunt for Ponch !

There was a post about Plek machine a month or 2 ago - it's a machine that sets up the guitar action and nut and fret dress

http://www.gibson.com/News-Lifestyle...k-is-PLEK.aspx

in short a plek is an automated fret dressing machine

beat me to it Wokka, should have known better haha

haha Stan must have been by less than a minute mate ! We both posted at 3:33pm Perth time

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Ah Woks, mine for the time being but is to stay within the family. Yes, I am a bit of a bean pole.

My ES looks like a Uke when I hold it and my Kwaka is a bit too small - no wonder I'm not taken too seriously lol!

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You could always opt to buy yourself a huge custom Harley Davidson Motorbike, I've been getting into Harleys myself after seeing some at a show in Kununurra, there was this one Harley I saw at the Kununurra showgrounds that was basically a restored 1930s model, it looked Uber-Cool.


Oh, I have to tell you this story, this one time when I was back in Kununurra doing some cleaning up in a little shed next to my Dad's workshop, I heard someone drive up and park their car in our driveway, then I heard my dad say "Hey Sam, come and have a look at this", I stopped what I was doing and came out of the shed, in our driveway was a red and black coloured vintage car, the owner of the car said that it was a 1921 Rolls Royce Silver Ghost, Dad and I stopped what we were doing and had a good look at the car while we walked around it, the owner of the car offered to take me for a ride in it, I accepted and got in the passenger's seat, my Dad took a pic of me sitting in the car with a great big grin on my face.

haha good one Doc, Ponch might have to start a motorbike thread or rename this one. Doc if you seen the series Sons of Anarchy there was a cool restored old Harley in the last season Jax rode.
Also my grandfather was a policeman in WA and rode a pretty old HD

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haha good one Doc, Ponch might have to start a motorbike thread or rename this one. Doc if you seen the series Sons of Anarchy there was a cool restored old Harley in the last season Jax rode.
Also my grandfather was a policeman in WA and rode a pretty old HD

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Now that is really cool Wokka, what did his HD look like?, I haven't seen the Sons Of anarchy series yet but I'll check them out.


Harley Davidsons are like the Rolls Royces of Motorbikes, you can tell when someone is riding one by the distinctive noise they make.

Hey Doc we better not do any more thread jacking or Ponch will give us a fine haha

I had a look on a family blog and couldn't find a pic of my grandfathers Harley but saw there was a photo in the late 1930's in his uniform so I'd say the HD he rode would have been around that era. I remember seeing a pic of him sitting on it and it was very old looking. Looked similar from memory to the pic attached the styling
Here's a pic of Jax from Sons of Anarchy the last episode of the last season

I would issue a jacking infringement but your sure to outrun a circus monkey on a miniature bike Lol!

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haha good one Ponch.
Back to the thread subject, looking forward to hearing/seeing a demo of this sexy looking Gibbo

I want to hear a demo of the Gibbo too.

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I would issue a jacking infringement but your sure to outrun a circus monkey on a miniature bike Lol!

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This is now the only thing that will come into my head when I think of you riding the Kwaka there Ponch :D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjedLeVGcfE

Too funny Pest that cracked me up. How about this?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CwexQZdrFmM

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Haha nice one fellas. Both videos very suitable

Ah cheers Woks I do try my best :D

Thought I'd give this thread a bump. I'm keen to see the rest of this review as that LP Special looks pretty damn sweet.

I recently capitalised on all the 2015 model hate and picked up an LP Studio for a reasonable price (ending a 3 year GAS-free streak).

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I found the G-Force to work pretty much as advertised but can understand why proper musicians would hate it: it's probably not ideal for live playing, sometimes it needs multiple attempts to get to pitch; changing between tunings can be fiddly; and perhaps the biggest, I don't think all that movement helps tuning stability.

That said I think it's a good fit for a 'studio' guitar as you can stay in tune at the touch of a button and switch between tunings for different tracks. Plus there is the laziness factor - after using the G-force for a while, picking up an ordinary guitar you just kind of look at the headstock expectantly and then feel a little bit disappointed.

haha I bet Blueshound that's the case when you get used to auto tuning ! Nice looking LP studio