Windows 10

Just done the upgrade to WIN 10 Pro from WIN 8.1 Pro and it went pretty much as claimed, I had to reset the audio output default for the speakers and reload my printer drivers but that's it.

It appears to startup quicker than 8.1 and the annoying intermittent jerky mouse appears to be resolved as well.

Over the weekend I plan to have a bit of a play around with Reaper so we'll see if the ASIO drivers are still in place but once again no biggie to sort if they aren't.

It too about 6 hours to back up the important stuff on the C drive ( which hasn't bee required because nothing was lost ) and about 1 hour for the upgrade.

All in all a happy camper so far.

Remember: WIN 10 does report keystrokes, browsing preferences, location services, voice recognition & facial recognition back to MS so make sure you turn these off in preferences

I'm on Win 10 too Dave, very nice OS, I think of it as 8.1 for desktops! Upgrading on my SSD, piece of cake, about 45 minutes to upgrade (I used the HDD for Win 10 to make sure it was all good first before going to the SSD) and everything so far seems to work nicely!

Oh and a pair of really nice programs that make everything so much easier... Get something called PatchMyPC, it is a free program that when you run it, updates as many applications as possible automatically and allows you to install some other bits of software that are also free. One of these is called Driver Booster which is similar to PMPC but for your drivers. Get them both and run them at the same time overnight guys, really does help with keeping things up to date!

Same here and liking it so far. The only problem I had was, as I also use my Line6 XU2 POD as my main sound output for all my sounds but lost all windows sounds like media players and internet stuff like Youtube and so on, with the UX2.

The fix was I had to set the sound setting to 16bit 48000Hz. Now it works like a charm and all my Program's still work. Just a heads up as its the only way to get the Line 6 UX2 working with win 10 sounds.

I'm running Windows 10 Home on my new Dell Inspiron 15 Laptop which I recently bought, the initial upgrade from Windows 8.1 Home 64Bit to Windows 10 Home 64Bit seemed to go okay, but I started getting system-freezing so I tried doing a clean install after backing up my wanted data onto a 2Tb Seagate External Hard Drive, I had to download the special installation media tool that Microsoft made available, after creating a Windows 10 installer DVD and doing a clean install, I found that I needed to download some driver software, for some strange reason it didn't go too well so I decided to do another clean install, I ended up doing two clean installs before I finally got everything working properly, I think what mucked things up for me was me not letting Windows update download the needed drivers rather than downloading them from the Dell website, the driver from the Dell website that caused the most trouble was for the integrated NVidia graphics, for some reason it wouldn't work properly....still scratching my head about that, funny that cause the other Dell drivers worked fine, anyway, my Laptop has been running Windows 10 Home happily since last week, and I'm happy with it so far, all my music-making software seems to run fine, I did run into some issues with Cubase LE 7 And Cubase Elements 8 so I decided to un-install them and just use Reaper till Steinberg fix the issues, FL Studio runs good, Reason 5 runs great, Reaper also runs great, Ableton Live runs well too.


Haven't experienced any issues with my Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 USB Audio Interface or the driver software so far.


I found that I had to delete the windows.old folder off my Laptop's hard drive, since it was taking up about 500Gb of disk space, after I did the last clean install.



One thing I have noticed about Windows 10 is that it's a lot zippier (faster) than Windows 8.1 was, especially when booting-up, I'm really liking the new start menu and I think Microsoft have gotten things right in Windows 10, been seriously thinking about buying a copy of the retail version when it's released.

Yeah running windows 10 so far upgrade went super smoothly . I like it seems to have given audio apps a boost . I'm using it on my Mac and windows PC too .Dr Nomis my buddy did same as you bypassed the download latest drivers and had similar issues. A test on pro tools experts website say that Pro Tools Runs so much better in windows 10 environment.

I use UAD FireWire plugins and they still verify it for use on windows 7.1 that's software 6 and a bit years old . It's absolutely Ludicrous Apple sneeze and they do new software updates.

Dissapointed couldn't get Cortana to work

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Yeah running windows 10 so far upgrade went super smoothly . I like it seems to have given audio apps a boost . I'm using it on my Mac and windows PC too .Dr Nomis my buddy did same as you bypassed the download latest drivers and had similar issues. A test on pro tools experts website say that Pro Tools Runs so much better in windows 10 environment.

I use UAD FireWire plugins and they still verify it for use on windows 7.1 that's software 6 and a bit years old . It's absolutely Ludicrous Apple sneeze and they do new software updates.

Dissapointed couldn't get Cortana to work

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I'm guessing that Microsoft probably did a lot of optimizing of a lot of the background processes in Windows 10, Cortana isn't working on my Laptop at the moment, since I live in Australia, it'll probably be a while till Australian Windows 10 users get a working version of Cortana, for the time being it's not really an issue for me.

Before going down this road I listened to the comentary by some serious corporate admins over on TDPRI and their advice was to make sure all drivers were update via manufacturer website, backup everything and then and only then do the OS upgrade.

No issues apart from reorganising my audio path and reinstalling the printer drivers, all appears to be a bit faster snd smoother thsn 8.1 on an i5 processor with truck loads of ram

Yeah I'm loving Windows 10 so far no problems
Samsung have built new 16 TB SSD Drives $5000 To 7000.00 lol

I've not had it happen to me as of yet , as I don't have FAT 32 formatted SSD or Harddrives.But supposedly Windows 10 corrupts Audio files on harddrives formatted with FAT 32 .
http://www.pro-tools-expert.com/home...ormatted-media

Seems I spoke a bit too soon, just had to do another clean install of Windows 10, here's why...it started off with the Windows 10 start menu not launching properly when I clicked on the start menu icon on the taskbar, I got the little coloured ring and then...nothing, I found that the notifications icon next to the speaker icon behaved the same way too, I then tried going online and looking for a fix for it, I tried the fix and it seemed to work, then a few days later the same thing happened, I tried the fix again but got a few error messages, and what's more, clicking on the speaker icon wouldn't launch the volume control, then I noticed that I had no working internet browser (neither Edge, nor Internet Explorer would work properly even though I had internet credit), I couldn't even find Windows Update in control panel, so I ended up having no choice but to do a complete clean install just to get Windows 10 working properly again.....hmmmmmm....

The best way to find thing like windows update or screen saver settings is just to type what you want in the "Search the web and windows" box and it brings up a list of things.

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The best way to find thing like windows update or screen saver settings is just to type what you want in the "Search the web and windows" box and it brings up a list of things.

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I tried that but it kept coming up with a "No Result" error, and when it did produce a list the item I was looking for couldn't be found, so I ended up having to do the clean re-install, which fixed the problems completely, hopefully it stays that way.

Dr Nomis do you think this is all because you didn't download the initial win 10 drivers ?

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Dr Nomis do you think this is all because you didn't download the initial win 10 drivers ?

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Probably not,since all the proper drivers for my laptop were downloaded/installed after I had activated Windows 10 online, I checked everything in device manager and it all looked good, the best I can come up with is that some files probably got corrupted when I experienced a system crash .


I think I have things back to normal now so hopefully my laptop stays working properly....touchwood

Let's hope so goodluck

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Let's hope so goodluck

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Cheers, me too, I did a complete clean install of Windows 10 a few days ago (used my Windows 10 installation DVD to wipe the HDD clean and do a complete HDD reformat), so far it seems to be alright.

Great News DrNomis

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used my Windows 10 installation DVD

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Get with the times Nomis! USB 3.0 drives all the way! :D

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Get with the times Nomis! USB 3.0 drives all the way! :D

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Lol....see, I'm an "Old School" guy at heart.

I just did the upgrade to Windows 10 on my desktop PC which was running Windows 7 Home Premium a couple of days ago, strangely enough, everything went a lot smoother then it did with my laptop, have had no major issues with Windows 10 on my Desktop PC so far, no lockups or BSODs that other people have complained about so touchwood.



As a side-note:


I've finally bit the bullet and got myself connected to Australia's NBN system, my ISP is a company called Aussie Broadband, before I got myself connected to the NBN I had to plug in a 4G Wireless Broadband USB dongle to get online with my desktop PC or laptop, so, what prompted the move to the NBN?, basically it works out cheaper for me, with my USB dongle it was costing me $180.00 for 12Gb download/fortnight with Telstra but with Aussie Broadband it's only costing me $75.00 for 250Gb download/month (I'm on a 24 month plan), I did the sums and found that the NBN is only costing me about $03.30/Gb, as a bonus Aussie Broadband gave me double the data allowance for the first month which means 500Gb, yeah I could have stuck with Telstra but I needed to have some form of primary ID to even get signed up, whereas Aussie Broadband only needed my credit card details so they could bill me, Aussie Broadband are an Australian company, so far I've been very happy with my new NBN internet service.

Mhmm after using Windows 10 since the update came out I'm really enjoying it, definitely a very nice OS, MUCH better than 8.1...

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Mhmm after using Windows 10 since the update came out I'm really enjoying it, definitely a very nice OS, MUCH better than 8.1...

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for me, Windows 10 seems to be a lot more intuitive than Windows 8.1 was, in Windows 8.1 it didn't make a lot of sense to me to have all the app-icons on the start menu screen when I could put my most used apps on the taskbar for quicker access, I guess I'm too used to how Windows 7 worked, but with Windows 10 I'm happy.


A lot of the negative criticisms of Windows 8/8.1 were to do with the start menu.



Update:


Just found out that Microsoft are scheduled to release Threshold 2 on Tuesday the 10th of November next week, Threshold 2 is a big downloadable update for Windows 10 that will add brand new features and tweaks to Microsoft's latest operating system, I'm not sure exactly how big the file size will be but I am so glad that I managed to get myself connected to Australia's NBN system in time so that I would have plenty of data download capacity so I wouldn't end up having to pay too much in recharge vouchers.



Update:


The supposed November 10th 2015 release date has come and gone, apparently it was actually supposed to be released on the 12th November, but so far I haven't seen hide nor hair of the Threshold 2 update, and it's 11:21pm at the moment so in about an hour's time it'll be the 13th November.

I finally did the upgrade to Windows 10 Threshold 2 (the previous install was Threshold 1) last night, everything went really smoothly without any serious glitches, first impressions is that the latest major update to Windows 10 is a very zippy OS, I have encountered none of the issues that other people have complained about, this new installation works and seems to be really stable, what's more, I didn't have to go and download any drivers from the Dell website, Device Manager is reporting that everything is operating correctly right off the bat, one of the new features of Windows 10 Threshold 2 is Cortana, you can think of Cortana as being a virtual personal assistant, ask it anything you like and it will come up with answers, at the moment I don't have Cortana fully set up but am working on it.

The updated version of Microsoft's Edge Internet Browser seems to work really well, I'm still on early days with the new OS though.


All in all, I think that Windows 10 Threshold 2 is a much better OS than either Windows 8 or 8.1 was, big improvement, gone is the Windows 8 start menu that took up the whole screen and needed clicking on the Desktop icon tile just to get to the Desktop, it has been totally replaced by Windows 10's more familiar start menu, and Windows 10 Threshold 2 boots straight to the Desktop.

Yep my Windows 10 update went very smoothly. Best operating system Microsoft have done so far. I love it

Apparently the most recent reports on the internet have said that you can no longer download the Windows 10 Threshold 2 ISO using the Microsoft Media Creation Tool since Microsoft have "pulled" it from their server, and have made it a Windows Update download only.

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From what I've read in the latest Windows 10 news updates on the Internet, the reason why Microsoft recently pulled the Windows 10 Threshold 2 update and clean installation ISO file from their server seems to have been because of a major update bug which reset some users privacy settings when updating to Threshold 2, more specifically the Threshold 2 update hijacked users privacy settings, apparently Microsoft have admitted that the bug existed and have come clean and fixed it, fresh installs have been fixed too so that they are easier to install, here's hoping that Microsoft have sorted everything out because I really think that Windows 10 is a great OS and definitely deserves a chance at succeeding.


http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/11...oad_explained/

Update:


Microsoft just released a cumulative update for Windows 10 Version 1511 Threshold 2 in the form of KB3124263, it's mostly some security updates, it brings Windows 10 Threshold 2 up to OS Build 10586.63.



http://www.windowscentral.com/window...e-pcs-download

Update:


Apparently Microsoft are going to be releasing another major update for Windows 10, called Redstone, sometime this year, but are delaying some features:


http://www.windowscentral.com/micros...pdate-features

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Apparently Microsoft are going to be releasing another major update for Windows 10, called Redstone, sometime this year, but are delaying some features:


http://www.windowscentral.com/micros...pdate-features

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I'll keep eye on this on TDPRI and get back there are a few members who are very close to Redmond

Currently I'm on Windows 10 Threshold 2 OS Build 10586.104, ever since I upgraded to Threshold 2 I have had virtually no major issues so far, no BSODs, no major system freezes, etc, very much loving Windows 10, will be interesting to see how Redstone performs, and all the new features it'll add.


I remember playing around with Windows 3.11, remember that OS?, I would get the occasional system crash, I also have fond memories of Windows 98SE and still remember some of it's quirks and foibles, I lost count of the number of times I had to download a certain .dll file because it was missing for some reason, do you remember Windows 98SE's Disk Checker that sometimes ran if a boot up failed for some reason?


Windows XP had it's own quirks and foibles too, I remember having to do the .dll registering routine on numerous occasions just to get some things to work.

Just came across this webpage about Redstone, the next major update for Windows 10, apparently Microsoft are going to start releasing it, starting in July this year:



http://mspoweruser.com/windows-10-re...1-coming-july/

When a company the size of Windows wants to give me something free, then gets really insistent that I take it I ask "Why?"
On Win 7Pro, I see no reason to change. It works.

Redstone, a fancy name for a service pack ( according to a Redmond dude )

Took ages, but went from 7 to 8.1 then to 10. Wouldnt let me install 10 over 7 cos it said my legit win7 was not legit.. wtf! So, i install a fresh pirate win7, and that comes up clean! Yeah.. Anyway, the old win7-64 drivers work fine with my tascam fw-1884 in Windows 10. Just had to change the firewire card to a legacy driver requiring me to edit the BCD to not check for driver signing at boot. Otherwise, its a long winded effort to restart and choose a special boot option every time!
Installing sonar x3, waves, and other misc vsts has been a chore but i got there. Thank you pirate bay!

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Took ages, but went from 7 to 8.1 then to 10. Wouldnt let me install 10 over 7 cos it said my legit win7 was not legit.. wtf! So, i install a fresh pirate win7, and that comes up clean! Yeah.. Anyway, the old win7-64 drivers work fine with my tascam fw-1884 in Windows 10. Just had to change the firewire card to a legacy driver requiring me to edit the BCD to not check for driver signing at boot. Otherwise, its a long winded effort to restart and choose a special boot option every time!
Installing sonar x3, waves, and other misc vsts has been a chore but i got there. Thank you pirate bay!

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Geez, that is odd, my Desktop PC was running a Legit and fully-licensed installation of Windows Home Premium 64Bit, which was installed using a Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64Bit Installation DVD, before I did the upgrade to Windows 10, and I didn't get anything like that, I had practically no issues with the upgrade.


My Desktop PC is running Windows 10 Threshold 2 64Bit, my Laptop was originally running Windows 8.1 but I ended up upgrading it to Windows 10 last year when Microsoft released it in late July, first time I did the upgrade it was straight on top of Windows 8.1 but I had some issues, then I tried a complete clean-install which resolved most of the issues, as soon as I did the upgrade to Threshold 2, the issues were fixed and stayed fixed, it's been quite a few months since I last did a clean-install of Windows 10 on my Laptop and both my computers have worked perfectly ever since.

Update:


Microsoft have just released a new cumulative update (KB3147458) for windows 10 running on PCs, this update contains the following fixes and updates the OS Build to OS Build No. 10586.218:


* Improved reliability for Internet Explorer 11, .NET Framework, wireless LAN, Microsoft Edge, Windows Update, logon, Bluetooth, network connectivity, map apps, video playback, Cortana, USB, Windows Explorer, and Narrator.

* Fixed issue with connectivity of USB devices until OS restart.

* Improved discoverability of printers when a device resumes from sleep.

* Fixed issues with lock screen.

* Support for visual voicemail on dual SIM phones.

* Fixed issue with audio playback using Groove music and other music apps on a phone.

* Fixed issue with revised daylight savings time.

* Fixed additional issues with shutdown delays, Narrator, Cortana, roaming data usage, buying apps in the Store, video playback, facial recognition, Bluetooth pairing, Microsoft Edge, logon, Internet Explorer 11, Live Tile updates, .NET Framework, and Microsoft Installer (MSI).

* Improved security for CSRSS to address security feature bypass.

* Fixed additional security issues with Security Account Manager Remote Protocol, HTTP.sys, secondary logon, Microsoft Graphics component, .NET Framework, CSRSS, Microsoft Edge, and Internet Explorer 11.

Something I've learned in the past 15yrs dealing with computers...when something is "free" YOU are the product. Your info is being sold. Now some people may not have an issue with that but when you run a business from a computer it becomes very important. Windows 10 is a huge spyware package, yes you can change all those settings BUT by the time you do that it's too late "no file left behind" Windows 10 already has everything they wanted, why do you think they are set to "on" as default?. Yes Windows 10 is free, but how long before you get a bill for a service pack that must be installed or Windows will cease to operate?
Paranoid? maybe. Experienced? Yes.

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Something I've learned in the past 15yrs dealing with computers...when something is "free" YOU are the product. Your info is being sold. Now some people may not have an issue with that but when you run a business from a computer it becomes very important. Windows 10 is a huge spyware package, yes you can change all those settings BUT by the time you do that it's too late "no file left behind" Windows 10 already has everything they wanted, why do you think they are set to "on" as default?. Yes Windows 10 is free, but how long before you get a bill for a service pack that must be installed or Windows will cease to operate?
Paranoid? maybe. Experienced? Yes.

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That's actually not much of an issue for me because technically, I'm not using my computers to run a business, I use them for running my music making software, running my games software, browsing the internet, or watching movies, I remember paying $260.00 for my Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium Installation DVDs, so getting Windows 10 free was a bonus for me, my Dell Inspiron 15 Laptop came with Windows 8.1 pre-installed on it, but I had to pay about $807.00 for the Laptop itself, so technically Windows 8.1 cost me about $807.00, having being used to Windows 7, I didn't like Windows 8.1 much, my biggest issue was the Metro User interface taking up the whole screen on bootup, to get to the desktop I had to look through all the Metro icons and find the small desktop icon, now, with Windows 10 it boots straight to the desktop, and I am actually liking the new start menu, I'm finding Windows 10 a lot more intuitive than 8.1 was.

Having said that, my attitude is basically "Each to their own", not everyone is going to like Windows 10 and they should just continue using what works for them, after all, it'd be a very boring world to live in if everyone used the exact same things in their day to day lives, wouldn't it?


For sure, and I agree, Microsoft shouldn't be aggressively forcing people to install their latest operating system on their computers, people have a basic right as humans to use whatever operating system they like, in whatever way they see fit, and I think Microsoft are forgetting that, considering that each User has paid their hard-earned money for their computer hardware and are technically the owners of the hardware.

I think any operating system these days collects data regarding purchases, be it movies, music viewing data. And in truth Apple are by far the worse. I use both macs and pcs I dislike how much control Apple has over what I watch and listen too. And dislike iTunes immensely. It's a big brutish piece of software that's outdated and clumsy. I actually find win 10 faster cleaner and recording with it much better. Apples El Capitan is clunky and slow.. I Love my iPad and iPhone but dislike Apples clunky computer operating system.

I'd love to see a day where both Microsoft and Apple start respecting the basic human rights of all their customers who buy and use their software, yeah I know...a pipe dream.


I also use, and run Apple software on my old Dual 500Mhz CPU Macintosh G4 Power PC, so I'm not just a PC User.


Sure, I could change over to running a Linux OS on my Desktop PC, Laptop, and my G4 Mac, but, I have had lots of issues with the Linux Distros I have tried on my hardware, giving me some major headaches, some Linux Distros installed okay, but ended up running a bit unstable, some installed but refused to boot even though my hardware was compatible, some wouldn't even install at all, some installed fine but needed a device driver so that I could get online to download the needed drivers for my USB wireless modem so I could get online....think about that one for a sec, I basically had no internet access so that I couldn't get online to download the necessary third-party drivers for my USB modem, which was the only modem I had, it worked fine in Windows though, just not in Linux, talk about a major stymie.

Since I experienced no such issues with Windows, I decided to stick with it.


I do happen to have another spare Mac G4 Power PC, which I might try running a Linux OS on later on some time, now that I'm connected to the NBN, might see if I can get the G4 to connect to my Wireless Router because both my G4 Macs have a a wireless modem built in, don't know if they can connect to the Wireless Router though, worth a try anyway just to find out.


My Mac G4 with the Dual-500Mhz CPU is running OS X Panther which is the only one that's compatible with my copy of ProTools LE 6.4, yes, I know it's a very outdated version of ProTools, but it's all I have at the moment because I just don't have the money to upgrade to the latest version, so I have to work with what I've got, my old Digi001 Audio Interface is incompatible with the latest versions of ProTools.