As you can tell from my username I am new to guitar building.
Question; I have a TLA-1 with a maple neck and am curious regarding what if any treatment should be applied to it.
Should I use oil or leave it as is.
Thanks in advance
Novice
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As you can tell from my username I am new to guitar building.
Question; I have a TLA-1 with a maple neck and am curious regarding what if any treatment should be applied to it.
Should I use oil or leave it as is.
Thanks in advance
Novice
Hi Novice,
if you want to keep the colour of the fingerboard light I'd order some Dingotone Guitar wax won't darken the look.
If you don't mind it being a bit darker I rag tung oil onto fingerboards
Most of the standard fretboard finishes should work well for maple - I've used Dr Ducks Axe Wax on my bass with a maple fretboard and while I've not hammered the guitar - I've also not had any issues with it. Really it comes down to personal preference - I'd go with something natural though and am hearing good things about Dingotone Wax.
Thanks for the tips workaboy and Brendan.
My concerns with putting wax or oil on the fretboard was in case either would coat the strings on in fact allow dirt to accumulate easier
Will give the dingotone wax a go.
Cheers
Hi Novice ... "Fretboard finishes" - a good topic to start a riot (sorry, "serious debate" :D) ... and I just cant help myself! bwahaha :D
WARNING! THE FOLLOWING OPINIONS MAY CAUSE DISAGREEMENT
Traditionally (i.e. in the 65 years of electric guitar construction), the choice of finishes was usually based on the type of timber ... maple fretboards got varnished (nitrocellulose) and rosewood/ebony fretboards were oiled ... which explains why all the old maple neck tele's and strats that you see often have grungy, grey-ed staining of the fretboard where the varnish has worn through to the bare timber and been stained by sweaty fingers, spilt beer, and screaming groupies, etc. :D
There's very few groups of people that are weirder than musicians (and guitarists and basses are some of the weirdest! :D) especially when it comes to the "little things" that are believed to make the "big differences" ... and fretboard finishes (and especially oils) are one of the favourite topics ... I've heard mention of folks using everything from ear-wax to the oil of Siberian mink's liver and swearing by the benefits of it ("but man, it gives sooo much better tone!").
Any non-varnish fretboard finish (i.e. oils, waxes, etc) can be basically spilt into two groups - mineral and vegetable (I'm not much up on waxes but I believe the principles for it are the same as for oils)
There's been a lot of research conducted on the properties and effects that each has on timber as a tonewood component and it would appear that setting the benefits of each aside (and their fairly balanced in that regard), mineral oils have a distinct drawback to them that vegetable oils don't have ... many timbers (more precisely the grain and pores of the timber) don't react well over the long term with the build up of minerals from the oil ... but we are talking long term here (as in decades, not years).
... and even vegetable-sounding oils (such as lemon oil) might not be true vegetable oils (only part vegetable) if the manufacturer has used a mineral oil base in their production.
There's also some mighty fancy oils (and mighty expensive too!) available through the Interweb, but they seem to want to put themselves into the "snake oil" category (superbly capable of relieving the gullible from the pain of their excess dollars)
True Tung Oil is a good standard and perhaps the most widely used (alongside Lemon Oil) - it's vegetable-based from the Tung Nut (Vernicia fordii). Tung hardens when exposed to air into an almost plastic-like finish - so it does have a slight affect on the "feel" of the fingerboard but only as far as personal preference goes and it does provide a longer lasting finish than most other comparable oils.
NB Not all Tung Oils are actually Tung Oil, some are marketed as Tung Oil because they behave similarly to the real stuff and can be used for the same purpose (check the individual manufacturer's product spec - Tung Oil seems to have become a generic term like "Coke" has for any cola drink).
Personally I've become a fan of vegetable-based Bore Oil ... the same oil that woodwind players have been using for centuries in their clarinets, oboes, etc. and generally available wherever they sell those instruments (and usually only in tiny 10ml bottles). It doesn't harden to the same type of finish as Tung Oil does and it doesn't stay greasy, so there's almost no preceptable change in the feel of the fretboard, however it does need more regular application than Tung Oil (I bore oil my fretboards at least once a year even if they haven't been played ... more often if they've been played heavily)
Hiya Novice, just thought my 2 cents worth. I rub a leather oil dye into my fretboards Mainly cause I like the ebony look ,then use the Dingotone Guitar wax. It feels right for me, and I think that's the thing try different ideas and find what works for you..
Hi Novi,
My preference is Behlen fingerboard oil it's just lemon oil.
everything else gets smeared with Tung oil or Lac bug shit in a solution of ethanol.
Yeah DB I know NR for me
you'll learn quickly what NR is
Cheers PK
Thanks for the help guys.
I have just finished my TL1 and am pleasantly surprised at how it has turned out, however I did have one annoying problem.
This problem was with the open B string that had a ringing, buzzing sound to it.
I Searched online and found a solution, place a piece of alfoil in the B string nut position and it worked.
Has anyone come across this problem and if so how did you fix it.
The Novice
Hi Novice,
yes presume you are using the plastic nut that comes with the necks. They often don't have the correct slot widths so it's happened to me plenty of times.
I'd suggest ordering a pre-slotted bone nut online or get DB to cut one.
At least you have a temporary fix.
Can we see some photos please ? We all love to see finished builds !
I agree with Wokka here. If you were going to spend money on just one upgrade, I'd say get a decent bone or graphite nut. Those plastic ones are garbage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Novice
Actually no, PK :)Quote:
Originally Posted by kells80aus
I use my own secret Tung oil mix for fretboards and I have been known to use Shellac finishes on a few builds..
As for Behlen Lemon oil, I honestly have never used it but I have only heard good things about it..
Some time soon I will release DB's Supa Secret Fretboard Oil :)
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Thanks for all the advice guys
classic looking Tele, Novice!
Headstock looks like a cross between a Strat and a Tele, clever
tele looks great Novice, can we please see some close up pics ?
Might as well enter it in April GOTM is now open