Phrozin back to work

Hi guys started back on my guitars, on the go some just need finishing but needed a break for a bit as had to get the top of my hand cut off had a skin cancer and had skin graft took ages for my hand could hold a spray gun and I have, SV-1, JMA-1, TLA-1, 2X AGM-1 , GS-2Q, 2x ES-1F, PSH-1,PB Les Paul Spalted, PB Les Paul p90, I'm also doing an ESP LTD Mh-100Qm I picked up from cashies cheap, And 2X ES-3 I am doing some in lacquer and 2k, I've have got hold Candy apple red concentrate, candy blue concentrate white pearl, red pearl, yellow pearl, multi silver pearl .008, candy red flake .016, blue flake .008, so there's going to be some pretty nice paint jobs coming

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I wish I had half your skill!

Hope your hand is ok?

Welcome back! I can't wait to see how your builds turn out.

Getting old sucks.

Just a couple there Phroz, dunno how you find space to store them all.

Yes, welcome back.

By my count that's 12 you got going there! I'm struggling with two on the go atm...

Of course, it doesn't help that I've kind of hit a "motivational slump" the past few weeks.

Welcome back.
Take it easy - those surgeries take time to heal.

Glad to hear you are back Phroz.

Good onya Phrozin. Keep em coming mate

Cheers guys, if anyone whos using 2k with isocyanate base hardners wear gloves ALWAYS

Colin yep took ages for my fingers to work nearly a year.

McCreed it keeps me out of Trouble I have had a spray gun in my hands for years I never get bored of looking at the finish whether its a car or guitar

Hey, Phil, my missus says the same thing, I've done over 50 guitars since 2015 I got them all over the place she just doesn't get everyone sounds and plays differently and I won't sell them I have given a couple to a single dad and his kids wanted to take up the guitar, he didn't have the money to buy a couple so I gave a couple to him a strat and Ibanez RG if did up and his kids are going great learning

JohnH you have mate you just don't know it.

jugglindan absolutely mate, it was lucky got it sorted they thought I might need Radiation on it but thank God they got it in time my missus is a funeral Director so if I drop dead I'm cool

CheerscAndy & bakerd

I hope this is not to gorry for anyone if it is ill take it down

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Yikes, that is gonna hurt! Is that photo now, or earlier?

Ouch! You meant it literally when you said "top of my hand cut off". I was thinking BCC's like I've had removed.
Glad to hear it has gone well so far. Goo on you.

On another topic, what do you know about the isocyanate-free 2k they make now?
Is it as good as the old-fashioned toxic stuff?
I just found out it exists and was considering trying it as I don't have proper extraction or masks.

I do use gas/fumes filters in my respirator for spraying lacquer, but I doubt it's good enough for old 2k.

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Yikes, that is gonna hurt! Is that photo now, or earlier?

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Earlier it looks better now still can't hold a suction gun with a full pot for very long I have like 20 guns gravity are ok

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Ouch! You meant it literally when you said "top of my hand cut off". I was thinking BCC's like I've had removed.
Glad to hear it has gone well so far. Goo on you.

On another topic, what do you know about the isocyanate-free 2k they make now?
Is it as good as the old-fashioned toxic stuff?
I just found out it exists and was considering trying it as I don't have proper extraction or masks.

I do use gas/fumes filters in my respirator for spraying lacquer, but I doubt it's good enough for old 2k.

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Long as you use a decent respirator with a good fit and protect your eyes lacquer you can get by with a respirator, I have used a lot of 2k especially the epoxy stuff as its so tough, I don't trust any 2k the water base gear is a lot safer but if you don't have good gun technique you can make a pigs ear out of it pretty easy but I guess that goes with all paint.

There are a few other downsides to it, if your going to spray any 2k grab a pair of painter cover alls Bunnings sell them there disposable only cost a couple of bucks and buy painters gloves, I have had a lot of contact with isocyanate back when not much was known but everyone is different in what can help a cancer along it's a know carcinogen, imo it has an unequaled look to it and it's tough, I haven't used a lot of water base 2k so I can't comment with 100% authoritiy. Sonic might have a bit more to it add to it but Do the safe thing keep it off your skin, eyes, head and keep them all out of your lungs even acrylic grey primer has lots of lead in it.

I buy a lot of my stuff from https://www.autolac.com.au/ or https://www.autorepairsdirect.com.au/ or I buy direct from protec paint here in Adelaide who now sell PPG paint, candy I buy the powder and mix my own concentrate and it's a lot cheaper than house of colour or other like them,😎

Christ on a bike! I was curious about your hand but thought better about asking. But since you’ve posted the photo....is that a mohs surgery job or the plan all along? Hand pain and incapacitation is just the worst! Good luck moving forward from here. Your guitars are second to none btw.

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Christ on a bike! I was curious about your hand but thought better about asking. But since you’ve posted the photo....is that a mohs surgery job or the plan all along? Hand pain and incapacitation is just the worst! Good luck moving forward from here. Your guitars are second to none btw.

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It was a skin cancer it came up really fast, it started about 2 cm round so went to my doc she cut the top off for a biopsy that came back all clear then over about 3 weeks it all scab up no worries then I jammed it between my chair and a benchtop ripped the guts of it out, could have heard me in NSW hurt like buggery the missus said I don't know about that so back to the doc sent me to dermatology which took me 2 months to see anyone, in that time it grew to about 5 cm soon as doc saw it said that doesn't look so good,

He proceeded to check under my arm and inside of my elbow turns around and said no lumps that's good, I'm thinking to myself shit. He starts writing out some forms I sign them sends me home 2 weeks later I get a letter from the plastic surgeon to mossy on in to see him 2 days later there cutting me up spent the night in hospital, they took a 4" square of skin shaved off the top of my leg and sewed it over the top of the great hole in my right hand, they then tell me I might need radiation to Kill any they couldn't cut out, a week later I get pathology came back they got it all with good margins don't need to radiate it.

The rest was physio to get the tendons to start working again took a good while before I could actually use it, I still got to wear a special glove on it, I guess it's a bit like a bad burn that's what the glove looks like, I can now do stuff driving my car still a bit painful as its hand controls you drive it like a motorcycle, it's pretty funny I'm pretty well know at my local supercheap store I was talking to a girl who works there her father passed away from melanoma she was the one who said go get a second opinion... Go figure

I forgot it was not the average skin cancer from the sun all good now I'm back at it

Thanks Phrozin.
The product I've looked at is from PPG, but the data sheet doesn't indicate it being water based. Any insight there?

ICF 2K Isocyanate Free

Welcome back Phrozin. Hope you heal well.

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Thanks Phrozin.
The product I've looked at is from PPG, but the data sheet doesn't indicate it being water based. Any insight there?

ICF 2K Isocyanate Free

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Best advice I can give you is don't trust any 2k wear a good respirator always protect your eyes and you'll be good to go my exposure has been over years of contact before all the bad things were known its beautiful stuff look at shine and hardness wise 😎

Guys I've been doing some cut & polishing some guitar bodys and I've picked up a 3" cordless polisher it's a ripper and works great with the 3" foam pads, if you plan on doing a few (sonic I'm looking at you lol) you need one in your tool box ill be posting a few body this week that I've been using it on, they have power tool on special every so often that's when I got mine $80

Here's a link
https://www.supercheapauto.com.au/p/...#sz=60&start=3

These pads work with it and is what I have been using
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/18pcs-3-...frcectupt=true

Grab one of these the standard batterys will do 1 side I use the 2 standard batteries and a 4 amp to do a full guitar
https://www.supercheapauto.com.au/p/...id=SCA01050210

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Guys I've been doing some cut & polishing some guitar bodys and I've picked up a 3" cordless polisher it's a ripper and works great with the 3" foam pads, if you plan on doing a few (sonic I'm looking at you lol) you need one in your tool box...

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Nah, I like inflaming the tendonitis in my elbow and arthritis in my hands too much :o

I do have two bodies hanging (very well cured now btw) that are waiting to be levelled and polished. Maybe a good excuse to expand my tool possession.

Hey guys here are 3 i have finished this week

This is a JM-1 it is red base with 2 coats 0.016 red flake and 2 coats of Candy apple red pearl over it then 4 coats of Candy apple red tint and 3 coats of 2k clear with the weather so cold and wet here I had to heat up the clear with a hairdryer as I was spraying it, moisture was being caught by the spray as it was coming out of the gun, I can't seem to be able to catch the flake in a photo but it's quite large looks amazing under lights,

This is PSH-1 this thing has given me nightmares I've had to repair a huge hunk I pulled out of the quilt maple was a job and a half to repair but managed to fix it, I had to put in a patch on the maple the dropped on the dye the put unthinned 2k clear over that let it harden then sand it all back and recleared, it's a rit dye teal colour and 3 coats of 2k clear waiting on a new bridge as this wrap-around type bridge the intonation is way off and pretty much unplayable so a fully adjustable bridge is on its way I'm hoping that fixes it,

This is an ESP LTD Mh-100Qmfr I picked up from cash converters they dropped there prices over the COVID-19 shutdowns so it was really cheap, the body was trashed, had dents huge deep scratches chips a real mess, I've sanded it all back repaired the dents re-dyed the back, quilt maple front was ok just scratches and popped 4 coats of 2k clear over it came up well and plays great it's going into my keepers rack, while I was there I grab an SG for $75 it is beat up but I can repair it got big plans for that one

I have started 2 hollow bodys and a tele I'm doing in a dark Candy this week hope you guys like them all

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Nice!
I love the depth you get with that clear. I have clear coat envy now :(

Top work as usual Phroz.

Cheers Phil 👍

Started work on a hollow body so far just put the dye on it's my usual Rit dye Scarlet Red for those interested 1 sachet to 100ml water and have some grain filling not sure if I'll do a burst on it yet the plan is to do the front quilt in red and a see-through black on the back silver hardware with a Bigsby

I also finish clearing a TL-1 Tele this afternoon have done it in a candy apple red over Candy apple red pearl with red base have tried the do it as dark as I can and done a 50-1 mix of tint concentrate so it will glow under lights, body has come out super flat and quite happy with it, I'm going it hanging up for 2 or 3 days for the paint to harden enough to polish but it's only been 14c herein Adelaide way to cold have done it all in lacquer will pop a couple of pictures tomorrow

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Hey guys here is the TL-1 Tele as I said in the previous post 2 coats red base SCA Red, 2 coats candy red pearl 2g - 1lt medium, 6 coats of Candy apple red tint, 6 coats of clear, Candy tint is 50ml - 100ml medium so quite strong as wanting it dark as I could get it not to bad off the gun all done in lacquer. Leaving it for a couple more days before ill polish it as been very cold here ATM will polish up pretty easily 😵

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Mate, that's fine gun work, I can already see clear and sharp reflections off it before you've even threatened it with a polishing compound. Looks fab

+1 to what Bakersdozen said!!! I wish I could lay it down like that.

Man, I will be lucky to get a finish that good after polishing!

Cheers guys @McCreed you can mate your just missing the how-to it's not hard when you don't know how to do something it becomes hard I've had a spray gun in my hand since I was 15😲

Have started a new one while I wait for that to harden, it's SG so far grained filled primed and Black base 2 coats this one I'm going to shoot a large blue flake over a Black base using a .008 flake then highlight it with a blue pearl then Candy blue and clear all in lacquer using my own mix of Candy blue got the body super flat so should look pretty good under lights, I was a bit unsure as SGs are either Black, off white or the red dye ill see how it goes.

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Man, I will be lucky to get a finish that good after polishing!

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After you polish them they should look like this, I did these ones back in 2017 - 2018, black is a funny colour to paint if you don't get it right you get a shine but it's murky, to get a glass look with Acrylic what I do with Acrylic and solid colours I don't spray a 100% clear over the colour I mix in about 20% colour to the clear, a bit harder if you're doing a rattle can, metallics you put a 100% clear over them, most amateurs don't know how to spray metallics, pearls, and candy's they don't get an even coat with the flake standing up the same over the whole job and candy not getting railway tracks in it, mica paint like pearls is another different animal they refract the light where metallics reflects the light pearls give you a nice glow to them under the light then there's 2k's only someone who has good gun control should try 2k

Anyone who wants to do a few builds they should really think about buying a gun and compressor you can get a compressor with not a lot of money and you can get a gun around the $40. If anyone wants to know anything they just got to ask I don't post very much but I read others builds if I can help I will. I'm not into turning guitars into coffee tables

Here's a few I did a while back

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They look so good!

I've got a bit more done on the SG, I've got the blue flake done I've mixed up a fairly thin medium and put 4 cotes of the flake and I've put it over a Black base its a fairly large flake at .008 mix ratio is 100g to 1lt unthinned medium, I'm going to put 3-4 Coates of Candy blue over it and 6-8 coats of clear, it's raining here so might be a few days before I shoot the candy and clear then sand with 800 and 2 coats fairly thin clear, I'm going to do this one in all lacquer, without clear it's not much to look at and a fair bit of work to do on it. While it's raining ill cut and polish the candy red tele




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Oh man. It is good to see your work back on the forum.
It is soooooooo good.


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Cheer soliSam 🤗

Started polishing the telecaster coming up ok, I have been slack supercheap have 1000grit, 2000grit and 3000grit wet&dry sanding disks in 125mm and 150mm there not on the web site I have been using them on the telecaster before you use them get a soft pad for your sander so you don't go through the paint


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For those who don't know what a soft pad is its this, has Velcro on both sides there about $10 I have a 125mm and a 150mm random orbit Sanders both work great also gives you a nice and flat Surface to polish, the pads come in 5mm up to 13mm I use a 10mm

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Finished the telecaster polish and assembly pretty much run of the mill candy apple red the neck I used a weak rit dye yellow

Took a coup ok e if hours to polish it no strings on yet as only have the crap Chinese crap ones
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Looks so good. Showroom quality stuff mate.

The SG I got 2 coats of blue pearl on and only got to put a couple of coats of Candy blue we had a 90% humidity today so it was a nightmare to paint going to be fine tomorrow so I might be able to finish it, fir those who don't know if you spray paint with that much humidity the paint goes frosted as it traps the moisture in the air

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Great work man. I've rescued a couple of cloudy bits by immediatley hitting them with a hair dryer as soon as I notice them.

Doesn't always work, but can help sometimes.

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Great work man. I've rescued a couple of cloudy bits by immediatley hitting them with a hair dryer as soon as I notice them.

Doesn't always work, but can help sometimes.

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Hey phil I used the hairdryer 1st but paint got inside it and caught fire lol, lucky the misses didn't use it, I would have got Ar#s kicked if it caught fire while she was using it, I went got a cheap ozito heat gun which you can turn it right down, got her a new hairdryer, it was ok today I here got the candy blue done and a few coats of clear but raining for next 3 day which is ok got my 6 monthly scans friday

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Started another one its hollow body with quilted front bit like the GR-1 so far just started grain filling it will be doing a lot more work done on it over the weekend

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