Haha!! You're too kind bud. Yep, I'll be the pioneer on this one!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dedman
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Haha!! You're too kind bud. Yep, I'll be the pioneer on this one!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dedman
Looking good so far but one remark; I think the angle of the string tension on the lower E might cause the string slip of of the tip of the tuner. Normally you would have an (approx.) angle of 90 degrees from string to tip of tuner but this lower E tuner has a higher angle to it...
Great work Zandit.
What were the tuners, eBay Chinese specials?
They are locking tuners, so shouldn't need more than 1/2 turn to the post to get it up to tension, so hopefully that won't happen, but it's worth just testing with a real string before it's not too late. I get Kick's point that the low E tuner is at the greatest angle to the nut than the other tuners, so if it's going to happen, it will happen with that string. But it's also going to depend on teh shape of the tuner head, so if you are getting new tuners, don't cut the real headstock until you've tried them on the test bed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kick
Yep, I see what you mean. Once i start winding the string on, I will ensure the string will move towards outside, therefore it will hold itself in place. That's the theory anyway!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kick
Yes mate they were. I need to expand my budget a little!Quote:
Originally Posted by Simon Barden
You never know, you might have struck lucky. Or you could have probably bought two sets for less than the price of a named brand and made up one good set. I'm not averse to taking a few risks like that myself.
One is seized completely, and there are a couple more that are extremely tight.
I've just done an Ebay search, and came across Jin Ho locking tuners. They look to be the middle ground between the cheapo's and the likes of Gotoh and Grover etc.
Anyone had experience with Jin Ho? They look to be South Korean made, and they also produce Wilkerson products.
Just need to see if they are available in 3+3 style.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Genuine-J...4AAOSwdGFYokUL
Not me. They seem to do 3+3 in chrome. but not black (at least on eBay). But at least they are Korean, not Chinese, so won't be more of the same.
Kath and Kim. lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dedman
On the Jin Ho website they have listings for gold, chrome and black. I've sent off a question to the ebay shop that has the chrome ones advertised to see if they have the black ones available.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simon Barden
Hopefully JINHO actually make them and don't just buy them in from China!
Looks like they are the real deal. We will see when they arrive.
The seller got back in touch with me, and they have several sets available.
Australian Seller, so I should have them in about a week.
Fingers crossed for you, Zandit.
New tuners have arrived, and a new Graph Tech Nut!
As mentioned, these ones are made from Jinho, in South Korea. This company makes Wilkinson products under license.
Just looking at the box, it's easy to see a jump in quality over the eBay specials I bought a while ago, which arrived in a Zip-lock bag!!
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Everything is in it's place, and well packaged
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Immediately, you can feel the quality difference between the Elcheapo's and these units'
The locking shaft is well lubricated with a dry grease, and they spin up and down quite freely.
The keys are very solid, and while firm to rotate, they do so very smoothly.
Also of note, the string post is very solid feeling, unlike the eBay items which have some side to side slop.
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While I bought both of these sets on eBay, there is a world of difference in the quality.
The cheapies cost me $18.00AUD with free freight, and took a month to arrive. The Jinho tuners cost me $54.00AUD also with free shipping, but were from an Australian seller, so took less than a week to arrive.
They may be 3 times the price, but the Jinho locking tuners are more than 3 times the quality of the others.
Hmmm.......$320.00 so far!
It starts adding up when you replace some items!
Neck = $85.62
Jinho Tuners = $54.99
Fishman Pickup = $35.99
Cheapo Chinese Tuners = $21.99
GraphTech Nut = $21.50
Total of these items is $220.09
The remaining $100 covers everything else, String thru ferrules, bridge, strap buttons, Titebond Glue, Timber for main body, Veneer, and other miscellaneous items.
Don't forget to add at least one set of strings! :)
And you can't put a price on the care and effort you've taken in the building.
But you will be getting a unique hand-built instrument at the end of it.
Yes, strings. That's my next point of call.
I signed up to a website over a year ago called Guitar Strings for Life. They supply you free guitar strings every month, or you can just order them as needed, you only pay the freight which is $3.98USD for each set.
The rules are, only one set per order, and I think you can only order one set per day. Each time it will cost you $3.98USD.
So it's not really free, nothing ever is I guess, but it would be interesting to see what the quality is like.
The brand they "give away" is called Vincent.
I'm thinking for this build that I'll get a set of ultra lights and standard lights to see which is better for this guitar.
Because I'm using an electric guitar neck, I'm not sure if I'll run into any issues using acoustic strings versus electric strings.
EDIT: I had to change the price. It was $2.98 if you live in the US.
I don't think so. Being of a generally heavier gauge than you'd use on an electric, they may wear the frets a bit faster; but then again, the bronze/phosphor bronze wound strings should be softer than the wound steel strings of an electric set.
You should have no issues with acoustic over electric strings.
I get strings from the USA from a site called Strings and beyond. They are more than the Vincent ones, but you can choose name brand strings at a much more discounted price than what you get them for here - and if you wait for a special they occasionally offer free international shipping. I bought 10 sets of D'addario phosphor bronze strings for around $50 shipped and they take about a week.
They also sell picks and other bits and stuff.
Yep, I'm a subscriber to that site also. They have a special on strings at the moment. Buy 3 for the price of 2 on coated PB D'Addario's.Quote:
Originally Posted by stan
Not badly priced.
I have looked recently to see what the consensus is on the Vincent strings, last year they were an unknown.
I'll do some more research.
At that price it might be worth getting a set and trying them yourself - if they perform and you like them, then they are good
A quick web search seemed to consider them quite bright, but OK for the price.
Yep, spoken like a true salesman!!Quote:
Originally Posted by stan
But you're right. Nothing ventured, nothing gained!
I don't have any issue with that, I like a brightness to my acoustic strings. A lot of my songs are played fingerstyle with just the pads of my fingers. I tried using medium strings there once,and it ruined the sound for me!Quote:
Originally Posted by Simon Barden
It's been a long time between updates, but until today, there has been no work done on the Silent guitar.
It's not much of an update either, but a definitely a step out of my comfort zone.
The neck pocket has been trimmed out, but still needs some fine tuning before the neck will even go into the slot. I'm getting a Dremel router base to finish things up so I have a flat bottom to the pocket, and a nice clean edge.
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Unfortunately Pine is a bugger of a material to use a chisel on, as it sometimes tears away especially when going across the grain.
Hopefully the dremel will tidy things up a little. It may not be a visible thing when the neck is on, but I'll know it's there!
Even slow progress is good progress Zandy. Still looking good mate.
I know what you mean about pine tearing when chiselling across the grain. I have sharpened my chisels to the best of my ability and I still can't get a clean cut without tearing. Probably says more about my chisel sharpening ability than anything else.
And I get what you mean about not being able to see it. Some of my builds have been a litany of mistakes that hopefully no one else notices. But I do.
But hopefully we all improve as we go along.
I know what you mean about chisel sharpening Robin, I ended up getting the dirts with my manual efforts and buying a Veritas guide. All of a sudden my chisel work and plane draws got a whole lot easier.
What sort of chisels are you using Zandit?
Did you rough out first or just straight into it? I found the more you can take out with a power drill helps with the finished article when you shape out with (sharp) chisels.
Thanks guys, glad to know I'm not the only one!
Frankie, I only have one chisel, and it's not very wide, perhaps 15mm at the most.
I drilled about 20x10mm holes first before using the chisel, but I also used my panel saw to cut inside the outer edges before drilling.
I'll use my dremel to get to the final depth, and then start cleaning up the sides to get the neck to fit. Right now, it's not wide enough to get the neck in. It's not much remove, so slow and steady wins the race!
Yeah good plan. I have some japanese back saws that go well doing that sort of thing. Self adhesive 80 grit on squared up hardwood also does well for little "adjustments" on pocket fits.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zandit75
Excellent suggestion Frankie, thanks for that!
Progress has not been enough to update for some time, thanks to illness, I've been out of action for about 8 weeks. Still well enough to force myself to go to work, but by the time I get home, I was in no condition to have a crack out in the freezing cold shed. I finally got to spend some time out there on Sunday afternoon and got the rough shape of the headstock done. There's still some final adjusting to do to the overall shape, but the heavy work has been done.
Since I don't have a vice of any description, most of this has been done just from me holding the neck in place and filing away the excess after using the jigsaw.
Unfortunately this has caused some impressions marking the laminates on the front and back. They should steam out with no issues.
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I wondered where you'd gone Z, I hope you are tracking a bit better health wise.
As you say, those should steam out okay, but you'll need to be careful with your application and duration of steam, lest you loosen the veneer.
Thanks Frankie, I'm still not 100%, but I'm heading back to training tonight, so we'll see how we go. I've been fighting a chest infection for some time, and while the antibiotics seemed to have killed it(I've had three lots!) it's left me with a chronic cough that I can't shake. Doctor seems to think will eventually go away, it's just a matter of time now.Quote:
Originally Posted by FrankenWashie
Thanks also for the tips on the steaming. I'll make sure I take it slow and steady!
Hi buddy, sorry to hear you have been struggling with a chest infection. Bet the freezing cold weather isn't helping things either.
Looks like you need to spend less than $5 on a foam yoga mat at K-Mart to chop up and use as soft padding under your timber work pieces. I probably need to buy another one as after being used on 6 builds it is starting to look pretty crappy.
The off cuts work well between clamps so that no indentation marks show up and the foam mat helps stop minor scratching too.
Good tips Waz, I keep forgetting about the old yoga mats my wife has(She's a Kids Yoga Instructor!), and I always keep the offcuts until the build is complete, so thanks for that!Quote:
Originally Posted by wazkelly
They gotta come in handy for something.
Looks like my Photobucket has been locked up by Photobucket themselves.
It's no longer a free hosting service, and they are asking for over $300 to allow me to share my photos with this and other forums.
Time to find another photo hosting service. :mad::mad::mad:
Lame. I suggest checking out imgur. Been using it for years, never run into any issues.
Thanks Pabs, that one is on the list.
It's stupid that I've been using this service for around 8yrs, and now it goes and does this!
I think someones pulling a scam, I used Photobucket pro for years and it was barely $100 a year. I'm still using the free one today.
Well then I hope someone fixes it soon. I can view my album, and even save he photos, but as soon as I "share" the image address, I get the image shown earlier.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dedman