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I love it.
That mod would take a little weight out of the guitar i suspect.
Does it feel lighter?
I am wondering hoe i can “add lightless” to mine as the ash body is really heavy.
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Hi Oli.
It weighs 5 kg.
I've already taken a bit of wood out for the 2 pickup switches.
Ash is quite heavy but I reckon if it was bass wood, it would be too light?
cheers, Mark.
Wow! That's a lot!Quote:
It weighs 5 kg.
My Ash tele body (TLA-1 - the one in my avatar) was quite heavy even after doing forearm and tummy contours, so I ended up doing a swimming pool route as a way to attain some weight relief.
Shock horror, I know! But other than planing the thickness down to a wafer, it was the only viable alternative.
I only managed to eliminate 400g, but it made a very noticeable difference. All finished it weighs in at 3.8kg, which is pretty average for all my guitars, albeit at the upper end.
Yes and no. I'm sure you know different pieces of the same species of timber can vary in their densities depending on where they are grown. Mineral levels in soil or differences in yearly precipitation can have an effect on an individual tree's density.Quote:
Ash is quite heavy but I reckon if it was bass wood, it would be too light?
I have a Squier Deluxe Strat with a basswood body and it's total weight is 3.6kg. My alder strat (non-kit build) is 3.7kg. Both bodies are equal thickness and dimensionally the same. Same pickups/pots etc. Two different finishes, but I'd say that is reasonably negligible.
Any way you slice it though, 5kg is heavy!
Pfft, my staircase guitar is 6.2kg, you guys are just weak :PQuote:
Originally Posted by McCreed
Ok yeah it's heavy AF. Decent sustain tho.
The one thing about a guitar being too light is the introduction of 'neck dive' which I would find more annoying than weight.
Out of curiosity I just weighed my Tele/Strat (hard tail) which is also Ash.. 5kg again, with no reduced cavities.
So this DMS1 must be a particularly dense specimen of Ash.
cheers, Mark.
How are you weighing it? I’ve just bought some cheap digital angling scales for weighing my guitars and that works well. Better than trying to balance it on the bathroom scales, which are probably not that accurate at such a relatively low weight. If that’s all you have, then weighing yourself and then you + guitar and calculating the difference will probably give a more accurate result.
5kg is 11lbs, and my un-weight relieved P90 Les Paul weighs 10lbs.
Yeah I have decent digital bathroom scales, so weigh myself (curse and commit to daily 3k runs) then weigh myself with guitar and subtract the first weight from the second.
I have an el-cheapo luggage scale from the $2 shop.
Probably more than that but not much.
Therefore it's a ballpark figure.
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Includes the weight of the guitar strap used to hang it with but of course that would be added when you strap the guitar on.
cheers, Mark.
Mine is nothing fancy either. $10 digital luggage scale from SCA. I have checked it with another scale and absolute known quantities and it was spot on.Quote:
Originally Posted by king casey
I’d weigh it without the strap as that can be very misleading. Or at least give both weights. You could have a thin lightweight nylon webbing strap that may weigh 50g, or a wide, thick, leather strap with solid brass buckles on it that weighs 500g or more in itself!
At least the guitar on its own is a constant that everybody can refer to. Just hang the guitar from a tuner key.
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Ok. So here is my weight after carving a massive swimming pool under the pickguard.
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Hi Oli.
So over a kilo lighter! that's quite a bit.
Wouldn't have thought it would make that much difference.
...and you left heavy duty strap on also. SB will be having palpitations.
cheers, Mark.
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Update: So I left the old strings on in case I ran into the same issues I had with my first Trem-King installation.
First thing I noticed was the 'creaking' strings that developed soon after stringing them up.
Initially when this occurred on the first it was soon followed by a series of different strings breaking.
The last couple of days I noticed that the 'creaking' had disappeared...
But then today, a whole week after stringing up, I broke a 'D' string shortly followed by a 'B' string.
I think there is definitely a 'breaking in' period to installing a Trem-King.
It may be getting the springs to settle in. Trem-King action on the previous build is noticeably smoother and lighter than this one and I've had no strings breaking since the breaking in period.
cheers, Mark.
Worth getting some cheap Artist strings as sacrificial strings for initial use, then putting some decent ones on once it's all settled down.
However I can't help feel that there must be small rough edges on the trems that are causing the initial string breaks, which then get worn away, as I've never had that on any other new trem system.
Hi Simon, hopefully I won't be breaking that many strings.Quote:
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I used strings that I've just removed from my TL1-R as a replacement.
Probably leave it as is for now. See if the other 4 strings decide to let go.
If it repeats on the strings that I replace, it will be coming apart for some inspection.
cheers, Mark.
Another thought that crossed my mind as I was nodding off last night...dangerous I hear you cry.
On both occasions I fitted 'used' strings. Probably already having a weakened area at the bridge end.
So maybe would be quite a good idea to fit new but cheaper strings first.
cheers, Mark.
Yeah. Prestretched strings often don’t like being restretched. The thing to check would be where are they breaking. You will probably be able to work out why once you pinpoint where they break.Quote:
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