I went to call into the local Veneer supplier today during my lunch break. I park outside it every time I head into town to grab something for lunch. Every other day it is open..........Except today!!! FML!!
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I went to call into the local Veneer supplier today during my lunch break. I park outside it every time I head into town to grab something for lunch. Every other day it is open..........Except today!!! FML!!
bummer Zandy, oh well they should be open Monday. It's not that urgent is it ?
No, it's not, but I've been walking past their office all week, and I keep telling myself "call in there tomorrow and have a chat with them"!!!
yeah I hear you Zandy, crikey if I went past a timber shop in my lunch break I would be checking every day for new stock !
It's a bit of a weird setup there. They don't have a show room per se, or at least not one that's visible from the road side. There's a massive big industrial sized sliding door which is the entrance, but it looks like you are walking directly into the factory, not an office/showroom area. I'll have to check it out on Monday.
In other news, here's effort #2(Right) & #3(Left)
http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/u...ps9yx6pukb.jpg
#2 was too narrow, I realised part way through that the tuning machines would have crossed over each other, so that was not workable.
#3 is getting there, but maybe too wide towards the higher tuning machines. If I'm able to find a happy medium between these two, then I think I'm on a winner.
Rounding out the corners like Franken mentioned has certainly helped.
Back to the doodling!!
With the more steeply angled headstock sides, you'll almost certainly need some locking tuners to keep the strings in place. With the flatter sides, you've got possible string interference issues, so once you've settled on the design from the top, I'd work up a side elevation to check the string break angles over the tuning posts and whether you are getting enough vertical clearance of each string above the next tuner.
On number 2, it could be possible if the tuners were staggered, but the strings wouldn't run very straight to the tuners, and you'd certainly have to check on the side angle as to whether the stings would clear each other. But probably best to use a different design.
Keep thinking away!
Yep, #2 is definitely too steep an angle. Somewhere between #2 & #3 is the sweet spot.
I got a cheapo set of bottom locking tuners. We'll see how they go.
Damn, this is starting to sound like an engineering job!!
It is! Someone's got to do the engineering design on every guitar. This time it's you!
Yep...
Good news is the more you do the easier it gets!
I think we are getting somewhere!!
http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/u...pstoq0hzpq.jpg
http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/u...pspfidjnnb.jpg
There's a couple of alternative lines along the top right edge, and at the very tip.
This is a pretty long headstock, so I'm hoping that this is not going to be built in weak spot.
if theres eva a kit for that guitar, I want one!! , if that sounds half as good as it looks, never seen or heard of it but im likin itQuote:
Originally Posted by Zandit75
There are a couple of kits kicking around the interwebs, but I just got a hankering to do one myself. There are a couple of links in the first couple of pages of this thread that show the kits. They look more metal styled than LP shaped.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guvna19
The genuine Yamaha SLG200S(Steel string) & SLG200N(Nylon) retail for over $1k. I'm hoping to finish this under $300. I really should add up everything I've spent so far.
If you get the chance, find out who the Yamaha dealer is in Adelaide, and try one out. They are certainly different to what you'd expect!
Hey Zandit, if you had the spare coin would you buy one?
Yes I would Waz. I was almost swayed by the original SLG100S when it came out about 15yrs ago. The only thing holding me back was getting it back to Tasmania. I didn't want to risk it as checked in luggage.
The new model has a great blending design between the mic(actually a computer generated version of a live acoustic guitar) and the piezo pickup. It had several chorus and reverb options. You can also plug a set of headphones in directly and it's like listening to a pure acoustic sound. It also has an mp3 plug as well.
One day, a genuine version will be in my collection!
Thanks mate. That is a huge rap and one day when I have more dollars than sense may just have to add one of them to my ever growing collection.
And ditto from meQuote:
Originally Posted by wazkelly
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Originally Posted by wazkelly
They're not going to be everyone's cup of tea, but I fell in love with them straight away. If the semi-scratch build comes anywhere near it, then I'll be very happy!Quote:
Originally Posted by FrankenWashie
My friend Bill in Sydney has a yacht and has sailed to Tasmania before on it (in fact Bill and his wife sailed it to Sydney from England). If he ever goes again, I'll get him to bring one across for you. :)
Sounds like a plan! 15yrs ago they would have had to go in as checked in luggage. Today, I reckon I would be allowed to place it in the overhead lockers.
Having said that, many of the online stores now offer free insured shipping and easy return policies. It's a lot easier these days!
Finally got hold of some Titebond Original. Got my good friend Mick to pick some up for me!
Unfortunately, the National Brass Band Championships are just around the corner, so I don't believe I'll get much done over the next couple of weeks.
After Easter, this will be full steam ahead!
Picked up some tasty Black Heart Sassafras veneer today from Corinna Timbers here in Somerset. 2mm thick, approx 120-130mm wide x approx 2.4mtrs long for $5.50!!
http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/u...ps8glqfsv6.jpg
The only issue is the veneer is very wavy, and kicks up along one edge.
Any tips on flattening it out, because I can't glue it in it's current condition?
nice looking sassafras Zandy ! I would cut of a length you need (add on a bit extra) and spray some water on both sides and place between 2 flat surfaces with something heavy ontop. Being 2mm thick it might be too hard to get flat.
Thanks mate, I try that. I have a 100t press at work, maybe that will work!!!:p
wow 100 tonne press and it will measure about 0.6mm thick after that haha
I suggest you submerge the offcut in water for half hour should soften it a little. Some bigger wave shapes will be too stubborn to remove unless it was thinner.
Haha, yeah, I guess it would! I have some thick off cuts of metal here in the workshop that I could also use. Heavy enough to help flatten it I reckon.
All of the other veneers available at the sawmill were about 0.6mm thick, and I just didn't want to be laminating 4 or 5 layers.
Hopefully this works!
sounds good Zandy, good luck, hope it works. I'd choose the waviest piece to start with and see if that works. If not try a flatter piece if one exists !
I've used blackheart sassafras for a scratch build and used veneers heaps for headstocks, I stocked up last time I saw it at the Perth wood show. Awesome looking grain
Primarily, I got it just for thickness, it just happened to be one of the prettiest woods available! If I screw it up too much, I can always paint it. :eek:
you got enough there Zandy to make it work. It might take several pressing sessions and re-wetting before weighing it down before it gets flat. I'd leave it overnight the first pressing session
Try the steam iron on hot. Lots of water in the iron and move it slowly over the timber while its steaming away. Do it on a flat surface , obviously, then when you think its ok place under your press over night. You can place absorbant paper towel either side to soak up the excess water before you press it. By the way I would try a test piece
Cool headstock idea Zandit. :cool: kinda reminds me of the little sister by B&G guitars
Played some more with the head stock design. The last one I thought was going to be the one, but the more I looked at it, the more out of proportion it looked. It was too long. It's amazing the difference 20mm makes(That's what she said!!) to the proportions!
http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/u...pssit7cvk3.jpg
Stupid Photobucket randomly flips some of my pictures!
Putting the outline on the headstock(Yes I know this is pointless as I still have to apply the veneer!)
http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/u...psibww8zon.jpg
http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/u...ps1rrtvruc.jpg
Depending on my workload with the Band Championships this week, I may cut and glue the body pieces together, and have some fun trying to get this veneer flattened out. Luckily I have plenty of it for trials.
I call this picture "I officially have no idea what I'm doing!!"
http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/u...psqgshck56.jpg
classic, well at least the basics of the build are all there. Is that body hollow or solid ? looks similar to my number plate axe haha
Haha, they could almost pass for twins!
At this stage, the body isn't even glued together, I had just finished cutting them to a rough length. There's 4 pieces there of 30x65mm Pine at about 470mm long. I need to scuff them with some course grit paper before I glue them together.
I played around with soaking some veneer today and pressing it between some heavy pieces of scrap metal at work. I've left three veneers there over night. We'll see how they look in the morning.
no worries Zandy, interested to see if the veneers flatten out - will find out tomoz !
Hmm, we might have some success!
The three veneers I flattened overnight seem to be holding their shape at the moment, even though they are still a little damp.
I'll let them air out now, and see how they are by the end of the day.
excellent Zandy, fingers crossed when they dry out they will keep their shape !
Looks like they will have a very slight bow to them, but when they get clamped to the headstock, they should be fine.
Wow, I spend three days away from the site thanks to the National Band Championships, and the site goes bonkers!!
I had to take a nanna nap part way through checking out everyone's build threads!:rolleyes:
So, for those interested, the Championships did not go as planned for us, even though we performed better then ever before, we got creamed on a couple of things, purely because the adjudicator was not a fan of how we played certain aspects of the music. I'll get to listen to his remarks tomorrow night.
We received a lot of feedback from people in the audience, not just from followers of the band, but members of bands we were competing against, who all said our choices of music, and delivery were excellent. You could hear the sounds of shock when some of our scores were read out. Very deflating unfortunately.
A few really good positives, were our Junior Band coming 2nd in their class, and we came second in the Street March section. Our Drum Major(The person leading us in the march) won the best Drum Major award in our division!
So, what happens now? Well, now I have time to start working on my build. I go back to one night of Band Practice, not 4 or 5!!
Right now, I have been thinking of what I'm going to do with the head stock. The Veneers have dried nicely, and pretty much kept their shape.
http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/u...pslkidok2s.jpg
Due to the amount of cutting and shaping I have planned for this head stock, I'm not going to get much effect out of the colours of the Black Heart Sassafras. I'm thinking painting the headstock is going to be the best solution. This way too, I will not have a selection of nice BHS for future builds!
Of the three samples I cut, I'll use the two outer ones as pictured above. They are the flattest, and will require the least amount of filling prior to painting.
I'll also get the body glued together during the week at work.
Wednesday Night, I'm looking to get back some form of fitness. I've been too lazy over the last couple of years, and a nearby gym has started offering a martial arts 1hr workout. It's a blend of Brazilian Jujitsu, Thai Kwan Do, and MMA.
It's not going to be the same as what I used to do many years ago with Vietnamese Kickboxing, but it'll be a starting point!
Shame about the band results. Sounds like you were robbed. Do the judges vary from year to year?
I understand what you're saying about the veneer. There won't be much surface area to display the fine detail on those pieces, though there's nothing to stop you getting a more obvious veneer in its stead.