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08-09-2016, 05:30 PM
Andy40

Very cool pickguard material
08-09-2016, 06:25 PM
wokkaboy

Hey Nitro I agree with Dedman go option 2 and cut a cool pickguard shape then you cover the oversized pup cavities and the shape looks radical. Pickguard material will look great
08-09-2016, 08:55 PM
nitroburner1000

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Originally Posted by Dedman

I'd with option 2 because I like the design of the pick guard you've drawn

Ok cheers Dedman
08-09-2016, 08:56 PM
nitroburner1000

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Originally Posted by Andy40

Very cool pickguard material

Thanks Andy
08-09-2016, 08:58 PM
nitroburner1000

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Originally Posted by wokkaboy

Hey Nitro I agree with Dedman go option 2 and cut a cool pickguard shape then you cover the oversized pup cavities and the shape looks radical. Pickguard material will look great

Ok, thats 2-nil with pickguard
08-09-2016, 10:05 PM
DrNomis_44

I agree with Andy40, Dedman, and Wokkaboy, so that's now 3-nil with the pickguard.
08-09-2016, 10:15 PM
nitroburner1000

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Originally Posted by DrNomis_44

I agree with Andy40, Dedman, and Wokkaboy, so that's now 3-nil with the pickguard.

Ok look like its the pickguard, voting will close at midnight S.A. time. Cheers DrNomis
11-10-2016, 10:05 AM
nitroburner1000

So serious question time plz, need some desperate help. Ive been doing heaps of research on glueing veneers but cant find any info on one big area.

I have the walnut veneer all ready to go, i have the right glue, and am going to use the space saver vacuum bag method advised by you guys, thats ok.
The big BUT is....thats ok for a flat top quitar but what about a curved top like the sg has? When i use the vacuum method, as it compresses to meet the curves, esp up by the neck, will it split? Is it better to apply glue to the curves, glue down the veneer and cut or sand it back to above the curve, or leave it covering the curves? Or do i leave applying glue to the curved edges and trim it back after?
Hope you guys can understand this, as i need help. Thanks in advance for any who take pity on me, hope im not a nuisance. Appreciate all the help guys.
11-10-2016, 10:51 AM
Zandit75

How thick is the veneer? Are we talking super thin like the PBG Quilted veneers or something much thicker?
11-10-2016, 08:18 PM
nitroburner1000

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Originally Posted by Zandit75

How thick is the veneer? Are we talking super thin like the PBG Quilted veneers or something much thicker?

Well Zandit its definately not as thin as the pbg veneers are but thin enough to bend, maybe between .8 and 1 ml. It could take quite a bit of sanding if need be and is easy to cut with scissors. Theres pics on page 11 of this thread if you wanna take a look.
12-10-2016, 04:32 AM
Zandit75

I don't have any experience in this, but I would think perhaps having the timber damp, or steamed to give it some flexibility, but how that will work with the glue is another matter.
Sorry, not much help in this situation.
12-10-2016, 05:19 AM
nitroburner1000

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Originally Posted by Zandit75

I don't have any experience in this, but I would think perhaps having the timber damp, or steamed to give it some flexibility, but how that will work with the glue is another matter.
Sorry, not much help in this situation.

Thanks mate, not sure but when i dampened it to flatten it, it curled up something shocking, might be too hard to glue then. Thanks for your reply mate
15-10-2016, 01:17 PM
nitroburner1000

Any more takers on my questions thanks?
Might have to go ahead with it and hope i dont stuff it up...
15-10-2016, 08:25 PM
wazkelly

Try posting on DB's Corner as that should hopefully grab his attention and bring you a response.

I have never done anything with veneers so cannot give you any better ideas.
16-10-2016, 07:22 AM
stan

one idea:
wet your veneer to make it pliable, place it on the top of your guitar - no glue.
Weight it down with sandbags or your vacuum press, leave it to dry.
Perhaps sandbags as the vacuum press might not allow it to dry.
Hopefully, then you have a veneer that conforms to the top.
Now glue and vacuum press
16-10-2016, 09:58 AM
neverwas

Tindrrel tried to do the same thing to his ST and wasn't able to get the veneer to follow all the curves.

http://www.buildyourownguitar.com.au...light=tindrrel

The veneer will curve to a degree, just remember it's wood not plastic. You'll probably end up with some thing similar to the SG-1F, only veneered on the flat surface. Hope this helps.

Grant
16-10-2016, 08:10 PM
nitroburner1000

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Originally Posted by wazkelly

Try posting on DB's Corner as that should hopefully grab his attention and bring you a response.

I have never done anything with veneers so cannot give you any better ideas.

Thanks Waz appreciate the reply
16-10-2016, 08:11 PM
nitroburner1000

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Originally Posted by stan

one idea:
wet your veneer to make it pliable, place it on the top of your guitar - no glue.
Weight it down with sandbags or your vacuum press, leave it to dry.
Perhaps sandbags as the vacuum press might not allow it to dry.
Hopefully, then you have a veneer that conforms to the top.
Now glue and vacuum press

Thanks Stan, sounds like a plan.
16-10-2016, 08:15 PM
nitroburner1000

Quote:

Originally Posted by neverwas

Tindrrel tried to do the same thing to his ST and wasn't able to get the veneer to follow all the curves.

http://www.buildyourownguitar.com.au...light=tindrrel

The veneer will curve to a degree, just remember it's wood not plastic. You'll probably end up with some thing similar to the SG-1F, only veneered on the flat surface. Hope this helps.

Grant

Ok Neverwas, i took a good look at the SG-1F and your right, that is the way to go, only veneer on the flat surfaces. Im going to scrap the vacuum bag idea and use weights, thanks for the help man.
18-10-2016, 06:17 AM
nitroburner1000

Well went ahead and glued down the veneer las night. Checked it this morning its not too bad, bit rippley but glue is still soft. Used titebond glue, covered it with melamine board and put 5 tins of paint on top, about 50 kilos, now the wait.
19-10-2016, 05:29 PM
nitroburner1000

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Back into it

well, big sorry to everyone, been away from the site for ages, down with that 100 day flu, only up and running the last few days.
Gathered up enough courage to glu down the claro walnut veneer, and tonight, started shaping it
Decided to go with a routed trim all round different widths.
Have done the rough cutting out, with my dremmel, and sandpaper, still a lot of sanding and shaping to do.
I dont have a router so am being brave and trying it by hand, fingers crossed.

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19-10-2016, 05:32 PM
nitroburner1000

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Also filled the bookmatch join with superglue and added some walnut dust to fill any gaps in the join

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Also did a subtle shaping to the headstock

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19-10-2016, 05:37 PM
Dedman

man that is lookin' sweet!
19-10-2016, 05:54 PM
Dan

Did the SG-2 have the bevel all the way around or did you do that? The SG-1F doesn't have it all the way around and so isn't as symmetrical as what you've got.

I was never sure about the lack of symmetry on the SG-1F with a big contrast between the flame and basswood but I'm starting to get used to it. Yours looks like it should come up great.
19-10-2016, 06:00 PM
nitroburner1000

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Originally Posted by Dedman

man that is lookin' sweet!

Cheers mate, that means a lot coming from the guitar guru!
19-10-2016, 06:14 PM
nitroburner1000

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Originally Posted by Dan

Did the SG-2 have the bevel all the way around or did you do that? The SG-1F doesn't have it all the way around and so isn't as symmetrical as what you've got.

I was never sure about the lack of symmetry on the SG-1F with a big contrast between the flame and basswood but I'm starting to get used to it. Yours looks like it should come up great.

Thanks Dan, because i didnt like the standard SG beveled edge i decided to make my own, i got the idea from a firm called http://www.kieselguitars.com/
heres a pic.

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because im using 2 contrasting colors i wanted the basswood of the body to contrast with the walnut veneer, im staining the body and neck GOLD TEAK, and wanted some of the colour to contrast on the front of the guitar not just the sides and back..
19-10-2016, 06:50 PM
Zandit75

Nice work Nitro! That will look sweet when it comes to cleaning it and buffing to a bright shine!
19-10-2016, 06:59 PM
nitroburner1000

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Originally Posted by Zandit75

Nice work Nitro! That will look sweet when it comes to cleaning it and buffing to a bright shine!

Yea Zandit, but got hours of sanding to go but it will be worth it
19-10-2016, 07:01 PM
Zandit75

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Originally Posted by nitroburner1000

Yea Zandit, but got hours of sanding to go but it will be worth it

That's all part of the fun bud!!
19-10-2016, 07:03 PM
nitroburner1000

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This pic shows that the bevel is different widths, wider on the top and bottom.

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19-10-2016, 07:07 PM
nitroburner1000

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Originally Posted by Zandit75

That's all part of the fun bud!!

Yea, im beginning to see that!! lol
19-10-2016, 07:07 PM
Zandit75

Damn! And you've done all that freehand with a dremel and hand sanding?!!
I'm impressed!!
19-10-2016, 07:11 PM
wokkaboy

veneer looks excellent Nitro well done.
19-10-2016, 07:31 PM
nitroburner1000

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Originally Posted by Zandit75

Damn! And you've done all that freehand with a dremel and hand sanding?!!
I'm impressed!!

Aw Shucks, thanks mate
19-10-2016, 07:32 PM
nitroburner1000

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Originally Posted by wokkaboy

veneer looks excellent Nitro well done.

Thanks Wokks, havnt heard from you in ages, hows the luthier business going?
19-10-2016, 09:06 PM
Dedman

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Originally Posted by nitroburner1000

Cheers mate, that means a lot coming from the guitar guru!

been called a lot of things but never a guru :P does that mean I get a load of hippy chicks?
19-10-2016, 10:18 PM
nitroburner1000

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Originally Posted by Dedman

been called a lot of things but never a guru :P does that mean I get a load of hippy chicks?

Depends if you like em curvy or straight up an down!
19-10-2016, 10:41 PM
wokkaboy

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Originally Posted by nitroburner1000

Thanks Wokks, havnt heard from you in ages, hows the luthier business going?

Hey Nitro been too busy to do much axe work lately and been playing bit of bass on my new rig but Will get back into it soon
20-10-2016, 04:47 AM
stan

wow great progress Nitro, you have done a great work around
20-10-2016, 05:07 AM
andrewdosborne

That is looking really nice great job

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