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There's a huge pivot just out of shot to the right, when you pull the release the whole thing swings down and sweeps you into bed. Possibly with a bit much enthusiasm at the moment. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Simon Barden
And Igor speaks many wise wordth. Sorry, words.
A creation no doubt inspired by Keith Moon.
cheers, Mark.
Keith Moon would approveQuote:
Originally Posted by Simon Barden
Beat me to it, should have read all the way down before commentingQuote:
Originally Posted by king casey
I must confess that I'm not getting the Keith Moon references...
Neither am I.
He pretty much set the benchmark for hotel room destruction.
One such prank was to nail all the furniture to the ceiling.
(exploding toilets was another)
cheers, Mark
Ah, it all becomes clear now. Bit before my time... ;)
A bit more progress.
The main frame is almost complete and all the panels are now hung:
https://i.imgur.com/pcWD3AT.jpg
Reverse view:
https://i.imgur.com/qw6gKnc.jpg
This definitely brings the end in sight.
Jobs left to do:
Duvet hanger (and duvet eyelets etc) - smallish job.
rear wall central diffuser/absorber - medium job.
rear wall wide diffusers - medium job.
Computer cabinet - medium job.
So still a chunk left to do, but we're getting there.
Mr Sulu, you have the con.
Bonus if you go off the deep end you’ve got your own padded cell....
and nobody will hear the (hi fidelity) screams.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sonic Mountain
cheers, Mark.
I've had to make a huge number of compromises in my little home studio in my flat, mainly due to the fact that the unit I'm living in is basically government housing, so one of the compromises I have to make is I have to either keep the volume down, or mix using headphones so that my neighbors don't end-up complaining about the noise levels, funnily enough, they make way more noise than I do, another compromise is that I can't really do any amp-micing cause of the traffic noise from outside, so I have to rely on using amp-plugins, the room I'm in tends to sound a bit bright and live so I need to put-up some sound-deadening material, and I don't know how Territory Housing would feel about that, one of these days I'll have to get my own place, but for now I have to work with what I've got.
If?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sonic Mountain
IF?
;)
Thick duvets/doonas make good temporary sound absorbing devices. The thicker the better - but you may struggle to get a thick one in Darwin! No real use for reducing bass frequencies but good for reducing reflections in the mids and trebles. You can hang them off mic stands or clothes racks, or off furniture etc. That should stop the room being too bright and reverberant.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrNomis_44
Quote:
Originally Posted by Simon Barden
I'm seriously toying with the idea of buying a carpet to put on my studio room floor for a start, going to see if I can buy some new curtains as well, I was going to buy some anyway, but cheers for that.
Even a rug will do. If you ever record an acoustic guitar in there, having a hard floor is a good thing, so a rug that can be removed is often recommended.
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Originally Posted by Simon Barden
Yep, the floor, ceiling, and walls are all hard concrete, all the walls are 90 degrees to each other too, the floor and ceiling are parallel to each other, probably explains why the room is so bright and live.
So this evening I set the desk up and that end of the room is looking a bit more like a studio and a bit less like a building site! :)
https://i.imgur.com/9irgtAo.jpg
Not sure my second hand non-wide-screens will cut the mustard in that thread! ;)
Perhaps not.. but nobody else is sitting in such a Kubrick-Esque cubical as you either......
There seem to be some round indentations in that rear angled panel. Have you tried playing squash in there?
Racquetball actually... ;)
I may end up moving the music keyboard to the left hand side and dropping the computer keyboard to the tray. But I haven't got room for that at the moment so I'll play around with things and see how it works.
Anyway, today was quite productive.
Aluminium strips for a bit of reflection:
https://i.imgur.com/EmE9IFH.jpg
Lightly stuffed with old duvet:
https://i.imgur.com/uKJgAVK.jpg
Bit more duvet wedged into the front top and bottom and then finished with cara:
https://i.imgur.com/cr3mDSH.jpg
The rest of the afternoon was spent with a surform plane working on what will be the other diffusion boards.
I might take tomorrow off...
I think it looks better without the Cara TBH.
Then i'd have to do a much better job of finishing the aluminium!
Chapter whatever: of progress and impediments...
Working on the wide diffusers for the back wall.
Step 1, cut, plane and sand wood:
https://i.imgur.com/aGlR5WL.jpg
Step 2, cut to random size, tidy with rasp, and layout to confirm backplate size:
https://i.imgur.com/NHWLIDa.jpg
Step 3, realise that you've forgotten to factor that you're creating two plates and have therefore only done half the requisite cutting, planing, sanding and rasping.
Step 4, buy more wood and repeat step one:
https://i.imgur.com/sqnx4wI.jpg
18 meters in total, if you're interested...
Step 5, cut to size and split for two boards:
https://i.imgur.com/8OVCiH8.jpg
Step 6, decide things are going too well so trap finger in car door and half-sever the tip.
https://i.imgur.com/WAKNZ5I.jpg
Step 7, glue blocks to back boards:
https://i.imgur.com/glPT44q.jpg
Step 8, add a bit of trimming and mounting plate:
https://i.imgur.com/9fYdF6R.jpg
Step 9, read wall diffusion complete:
https://i.imgur.com/CHaXKKR.jpg
And that actually completes the main build and treatment.
I just need to build a cabinet for the computer now and then we're back up and running for recording and mixing. After that there are a few cosmetic jobs like some nice lights and the nameplate for the front, but a) they don't affect the use of the room and b) I can clear all the tools out of the room and do that work in the garage.
Just curious... are you planning to use this space in a professional capacity?
eg: recording paying clients with the intention of releasing recorded music.
edit to add:
Sorry to hear about your fingers too! That sucks. However, I expected there was a power tool involved, not a car door. :(
Hi McCreed, that's an interesting question and probably depends a bit on how good a job I've done.
In the short term it's for me and my band, in the longer term there may be a space in the local market for people who want something better than an untreated bedroom but don't want to pay for the services of a pro.
But I've got 6 EPs of solo stuff to record, and at least a couple of band EPs as well - so that should keep me pretty busy. ;)
I only asked, because it seems you'vs gone to significant extremes with the treatment for the typical "home recording" scenario.Quote:
Hi McCreed, that's an interesting question and probably depends a bit on how good a job I've done.
btw - just an observation, not a judgement :)
There's a fairly standard theory that the order of importance for recording is:
Material
Performance
Room
Mic position
Mic choice
esoteric gubbins like pre-amps etc...
Now material and performance are all in my hands, I can't afford any expensive mics or pre-amps, so this should give me a decent chance to test line 3 three of the theory. :)
Basically all the treatment and additional work has cost a few hundred pounds. Not to be sniffed at for sure, but compared to a 'decent' mic or two, or even a few premium plug-ins, it's in the same ballpark.
So in a few weeks we'll find out how it all works together. :)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
That all makes sense.
I might add that I'm also very jealous! :o
However, my level of sound engineering skills would fall way short of such a flash facility.
I've always been better on the input end of any microphone.
I am fully expecting that the first I will learn from the room is how poor my previous recording and mixing efforts were. :)
Or else how good they were and how much money you could have saved... ;)
Bit late to the party, just read the whole thread, and wow, what a project... kudos in getting it done
I had great interest in your baffles, bass traps and room construction and I think they will serve you well. It all adds up to classic LEDE room treatment (Live End Dead End) that is so typical of so many audio studios....
The one huge surprise to me is your choice of facing the dead end, which is the reverse to much of my experience. In most LEDE control room/studios there is a huge piece of glass between the main monitors which effectively forces that end of the room to be the live end which forces all the acoustic treatment to be behind the mixing listening position. The theory I was taught back in the mid '80's at audio engineering school was the glass helps define the stereo image and there are nil reflections arriving at the engineers ears from behind, Your studio has no glass yet still effectively has a live end and dead end, so with you facing backwards to the way I was taught it will be interesting how you find using this setup and how your mixes sound outside the room.
The early reflections from the mirror points are the most important ones, which by the positioning of the absorbing panels to reduce those, means that you do pretty much face into the 'dead' end.
Also, the space is relatively small and there is no glass panel through to the recording area or the space for soffit mounting speakers.
This type of setup certainly works, and is endorsed by many of the studio acoustic experts and studio owners that hang around the Sound on Sound forums.
What Simon said. :) I did a fair bit of research on this before setting out and I believe the principles are sound. I'll get some measurements in due course and confirm/cryintomybeer accordingly.
It's worth pointing out of course that the big window into the live room isn't primarily there as an acoustic feature but a relationship one - a lot of studios now do without and replace it with a camera and screen at each side, allowing you to put it in a sensible place (acoustically) and removing the need to compensate for the audio bridge between the rooms (or even the need for the rooms to be adjacent).
How’s the surrounding garden looking?
Covered in sawdust and shavings at the moment but in time it will be a nice little courtyard. :)