I found this primer to, but I don't know if it works :
https://www.leroymerlin.fr/v3/p/prod...-l-e1400894234
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I found this primer to, but I don't know if it works :
https://www.leroymerlin.fr/v3/p/prod...-l-e1400894234
I put the first layer of wood filler :
https://i.imgur.com/fQiv1PN_d.jpg?ma...idelity=medium
https://i.imgur.com/m2wj0ut_d.jpg?ma...idelity=medium
https://i.imgur.com/1gOUkVl_d.jpg?ma...idelity=medium
to apply it, I mixed it with water until it was a little liquid, then applied it with a brush
I just have to wait two hours, «*paint*» the otherside and sand again ! :D
Do you think I’ll need to put an other layer ?
If it’s the case, did I need to sand between the two layers ?
After an hour of drying, I covered the other face of the body
https://i.imgur.com/IqWMvGD.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/bO1b4G7.jpg
Regarding the face made before, here is a photo of the rendering, I do not know if it is normal (drying unfinished or because it is not serious as I will redo the sanding) or because I put too much water in the wood filler, but it is very far from being as uniform as when I put it, reassure me! haha
https://i.imgur.com/B2L97T1.jpg
Here's 2h30 after applying
https://i.imgur.com/jM02TcI.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/RlRWMDD.jpg
The garbage bag on which I painted has left its traces! :c
https://i.imgur.com/ddSnmTT.jpg
Looks good. I'm sure that is a normal drying pattern- the different densities of the grain in the wood are letting some bits dry out quicker than others.
I wouldn't worry about the garbage bag mark, you will sand off most of that again anyway.
That's what I thought internally but I do not hide you that you reassure me anyway! hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by Sonic Mountain
I will sand tomorrow morning, it is a little too late to make noise (01:34 AM in France) and I will send photos directly after!
Currently, my search for primer is inconclusive, I still do not know if my painting would hold on the primers that I spotted, after asking a few contacts! : /
Its best to let it really dry well anyway before you sand it.
It is difficult to help with paint recommendations because I have no idea what is available in your area.
As a general rule though, most spray paint has a version that is primer, colour and clear. You jsut need to make sure you use all the same kind and it should be fine. I would look for somewhere that sells automotive products, acrylic lacquer is easy to use and will give good results if you are patient.
Don't be scared to give something a try, its the best way to learn. The worst thing that can happen is you need to sand it off and start again (we've all been there)
I went to a car store today asking if their bombs would work, they told me no and sent me home. Haha
So an acrylic primer will works with nitrocellulose paint ?
I found a varnish who worked with my paint (normally)
Sorry, I have no idea, I've never tried it. The nitro product should also have a primer available. Otherwise you might need to experiment on some scrap first.
Hey Maxence, good progress!
'Bombes de peinture' is 'paint spray can' in English, not 'paint bombs' (I made the mistake before...).
Don't scare the forum guys! [emoji6]
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Yes, save the bombs for Mururoa atoll.
At the time of the french nuclear tests my dad and I were restoring and driving around a 74 Citroen D Special - interesting car to say the least. I made a sticker up for the bumper with the french flag and "Not a Bomb", which I thought was amusing......
With ash, the wood grain and pores are quite deep, so you may need to apply another coat of grain filler after you've sanded down the first coat of filler. It's best to apply it with a plastic or rubber-edged scraper and use the scraper to push the filler into the cavities. Also its best to scrape across the grain as it helps to push the filler into the pores. And the scraper helps remove excess filler on the surface, making the sanding down afterwards easier.
Good progress so far i grain filled my JMA body twice and it was well worth the effort.
Do you think that can work ?
White MOTIP PRIMER
Here's a translation :
Quote:
This white primer MOTIP is a high quality Primer for indoor and outdoor fast-drying pretreatment for treated and untreated substrates (wood, metal, aluminum, glass, stone, fiber cement and ceramic). This white primer is also suitable as pretreatment for ALKY resin finish paint.
This product has an excellent covering, filling and anti-corrosion properties. It facilitates sanding, both dry and wet (from 400 grit) and can be repainted with any paint system.
Ok, thanks ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by FredA
Here is news of the day:
I tried to sand for about an hour and a half the filler layer,
it was not very effective, even sandpaper 120, I spotted a few shots in the front that I had not seen, the second layer of filler should arrange it!
someone has a technique to sand more effectively? I feel like I'm not doing much! haha
https://i.imgur.com/XdXvLxm.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/sZrwC63.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/M0gobqy.jpg
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Hi Maxence
Are you sanding in the same direction of the grain or across the grain?
You should sand in the same direction of the grain.
Starting with 120 sandpaper is good to take down excess filler then try switching to a finer grade say 240 and see how that works.
I had fill 2 times and even a 3rd time in some spots on the body on mine i found that the coarse sandpaper was tearing out the filler a bit as well if i sanded to hard.
Follow the filling steps that Simon mentioned in an earlier post and it should work out well.
Russ
It's also worth investing in good quality sandpaper, it makes a big difference. You should change it fairly often as well as it wears down and clogs, making it ineffective.
But sanding is also just a lot of hard, boring work. It is very worth while, the better job you do now, the better the finish guitar will be.
Yes, why ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Grubsta
Sanding is badly done ?
Yep, I recently buy some 180 good quality paper, but I certainly return take some 120 paper, I need some more ! ^^Quote:
Originally Posted by Sonic Mountain
The sanding job looks fine to me. Yes you will use a fair bit of it if you are doing a really thorough job, thats normalQuote:
Originally Posted by Volgar
No i don't think so sounds like you are doing everything right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Volgar
Ok ! I had a little fear ! :D
I can't advance on the kit today, tonight and tomorrow, because I'm at my girlfriend's home and I must also finish my school projects (I am in a very time-consuming and demanding computer school). I'm already sick about that! haha
I think I finished sanding the first layer, I went to the 320 paper, even if it is not very useful! haha
I will apply the second layer, with a scraper this time to avoid putting too much! ^^
https://i.imgur.com/iOf9usd.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/WpiEYC9.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/iKEJOJU.jpg
Second putty layer !
this time I used a metal spatula and a plastic scraper to avoid putting too much! :)
https://i.imgur.com/qOb9T3k.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/yKgRCyZ.jpg
I think I’ll won a lot of time ! :D
I finished sanding the second layer of filler!
I think I now have a pretty smooth rendering and I will be able to start putting the primer!
What do you think about that ?
https://i.imgur.com/xdpBehz.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/kjkGuIn.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/0O1S9DK.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/BOU68sV.jpg
It looks pretty good however it is a little hard to be 100% sure just looking at the pictures. Dust it of and just inspect the whole body for anything you may have missed if your satisfied with how it looks then yes move on to the next step.
Looking good.
Yep, i’ll clean it tommorow evening and start to put some primer ! :)
Here's the first layer of primer in the back !
The newt will be in two hours , but I don't know how much layer I need to put ! haha
https://i.imgur.com/S4yk31W.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/IKfJPII.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/LkcCbHu.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/3rdGqeG.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/5BnUNDd.jpg
So, do you know the grade of sandpaper i'll need to use after putting all layers ?
and the number of layers I need to put
Second layer !
https://i.imgur.com/RUSm5oQ.jpg
The 3rd !
https://i.imgur.com/jaXWvhs.jpg
And the 4nd ( and I think the last)
https://i.imgur.com/v2o6cBn.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/RrTtqQF.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/3vpRqv2.jpg
Here’s the body after some 600 sanding !
https://i.imgur.com/67MyeaD.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/MSWwqvS.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/fZehMhg.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/0FvHl3B.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/7O3qiT5.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/FmqzZHL.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/2yHxYzO.jpg
Do you think i’ll need to put some more primer on slightly less covered areas or to sand in higher grain ?
I let the experts handle the coverage question, but you should sand where the paint has left runs in the bridge post holes and tremelo cavity to prevent problems later on in the build.
I thought to do it once all the layers laid, do you think it would be wiser to do it as and when?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fretworn
If you get each finished layer (primer/colour coat/clear coat) smooth, it prevents a lot of problems. Any run that causes a bump in the primer will cause a bump in the colour coat and a bump in the clear coat. When you finally sand it all level, then you'll be taking the top off that bump which will probably break through to the colour coat and maybe even back to the primer. SO get each layer smooth and bump-free before starting the next layer.
Here’s the body after some paint !
https://i.imgur.com/FfFMWPO.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/5d8U4Ks.jpg
Also, I just see this at the top of the neck, it's not really straight, and there are stains, is this normal? : /
https://i.imgur.com/ZV3SawF.jpg
This looks nice!
Re flatness of each layer, I believe Simon is correct, it is best to get the first layer flat if you are after a perfect glossy finish.
You might consider use a guide coat or mist cost, lightly spray the body with a contrasting colour and then sand with a fine paper. High or low areas will be obvious as the contrasting colour will sand off the flat areas very quickly.