Attachment 25635 ive used this its a bit more resistant to water and susposed to stronger than pva i would think i havent cleaned the timber properly or not enough glue the other 3 guitars have held fine
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Attachment 25635 ive used this its a bit more resistant to water and susposed to stronger than pva i would think i havent cleaned the timber properly or not enough glue the other 3 guitars have held fine
Well, it won't respond to steaming then. That Aquadhere Exterior is heat resistant to 110°C, and waterproof, so steaming simply won't touch it. A red hot spatula is likely to be the only way, but you'll have to have it hot enough that it's going to scorch the wood and the finish around the joint.
So I'd probbaly try and get a syringe with a needle, fill it with glue and try and and get as much glue in the gap as possible, then really clamp it. Make a notched wooden block so you clamp down on the fretboard, not the frets, a plain block underneath the neck, and use a G-clamp, which can apply a lot more pressure than one of those ratchet bar clamps. If it works you're fine, if not, you are in the same situation as before and can then try the very hot spatula method.
It really is not a good idea to use anything 'stronger than Titebond red label, standard PVA or hide glue for sticking necks on, just because those glues are strong enough, you don't plan to play guitar underwater so it doesn't need to be waterproof, and if you do need to remove the neck, then you can.
This may be a silly idea but as a last resort could you 4 screw a chrome plate on like the bolt on necks have, would there be enough room for it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam Barnes
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Ill give a few things a try if i cant just cut it out and get a new neck. I had a look today and seemed to have come apart evan more. Ive been toying with the idea of making a mini hunbucker sized single coil pickups for it while the neck is out, i think it would be interesting to do have any of you guys had any success at such a project ?
Ive fiited different sized humbuckers and single pups in, and modified pick guards but never made a pup from scratch, not game enough. LolQuote:
Originally Posted by Adam Barnes
The actual making of it doesnt seem to hard , the winding and quality of materials look to be the tricky bit
You could try hanging some weights off the neck whilst the guitar is inverted, say on a table with the neck sticking over the side and some weight on the body to keep it in place. Constant force might help pull the glue joint apart slowly. Nothing too drastic, as if there is a well glued piece, it's the wood that will give, not the glue.
You might then try heating the join with a hairdryer, as although the heat may not melt the glue, it might soften it a bit. There are quite a few materials that soften a long time before they actually melt.
A while back I had my eye on doing one of these kits and thought these would be an economical choice to get somewhere closer to the true Ric sound. Tonerider Rebel 90's are another choice but a little bit dearer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam Barnes
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https://www.realparts.com.au/pickups...et-chrome.html
Cheers, Waz
Ive got the tonerider reble90s going in the spalted es so got thet covered on that build. Not too keen on routing out the pickup cavity since its finished and the mini humbucker options are $50 a set or $300 a set, not much in the middle. Ive got some timber left from the pick guard wich i could use for the flat work aand make more of a jazzmaster style pickup and attach it to the mini mounting plate and cut out the top of the covers of the kit pickups, I'd need to buy the 42 awg wire and the 12 magnetic bobbins. For under $ 60 its worth a try plus would look pretty cool and i made it. my only query is getting the right quality magnets and wireQuote:
Originally Posted by wazkelly
So i tightened the strings up a bit 2 nights ago and wamo it broke its back its like there's no glue wich is weird maybe the glue was a bit old.
While ive got the neck out im going to give the pickup making a go, ive orderd some 43 awg wire and alnico 5 slug magnets shouold be an intersting project
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I'd certainly sand those surfaces down so there's fresh wood for the glue to adhere to. It's the cellulose in the wood that it bonds to, so the new glue doesn't want to be applied on top of old glue.
Re glued the neck hopefully it works this time. Made some flatwork for te pickup bobbins
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Fingers crossed Adam,hope all goes well. The pick up covers look sensational.
Wayno.
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Pickup wire and alnico5 magnets turned up but snaped the timber flat work fitting the magnets, going to make some with the grain the other way
Take 2 on the bobbins and it all worked now to work out how im going to wind them
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Don't forget to drill any mounting holes before you do any wire winding. You'll need them to fix the bobbins on whatever going-round mechanism you plan to use.
And have the wire reel on the floor, so the wire just runs up from it. Don't put the reel on a horizontal spool so that the wire also rotates the reel. The extra tension can break the very thin wire.
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Ive pulled apart the kit pickups this morning and theve used the covers as a wax pot they were full to the top with wax when i heated up the solder joint, the wax was holding everything in place. Very interesting as I've never pulled one apart before
Great news that you got it out with no damage. The glue that Adam supplies seems to work really well, I have it in the RCA bass kit and the neck hasn't moved in 2 years, there's a lot of tension on that bass neck too!Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam Barnes
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Still needs a bit if work with a file
Looking good Barnsley, better you than me building your own pick ups. Thank goodness the neck came out cleanly.
Wayno.
Any full metal covers need wax between the covers and the bobbins to stop the covers vibrating with volume and creating microphonics. You should be fine with just side covers.
This does look very interesting indeed. Keen to see and hear how things turn out.
Its offical pickup winding is way too hard and frustrating,
Yep, that's why I have never tried and happy to let someone else do it for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam Barnes
It’s definitiy one of those things you need to be properly kitted up for. I’ve thought about it, but I know it is not feasible for the FrankenLab.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam Barnes
Dont know what i was thinking that i could do it with a cordless drill. If you were going to make 20 plus a year buying a pickup winder might be worth it.Quote:
Originally Posted by FrankenWashie
But ill pass this one of as a failed experiment.
Just ordered a set of lace nitro hemi mini humbuckers to go in, they should fit this build nicley
Well at least you had a go at it.
Im excited about guitars again, these puppies turned up today, ready to put this one back together Attachment 26498Attachment 26499
Nice, I'll be interested to hear how they sound.
Attachment 26501 looks loke I'm making new pickup rings too
Oy. Bugger. Well at least you have your method down eh?Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam Barnes
Yep franky, first cut the shape out then fibre glass tape, ebony timbermate and sand back, bushfire sunrise and sand back, black stump and sand back, finally clear coat, cut the pickup rout out and drill the holes and hope i dont snap them along the grain. Its gonna be funQuote:
Originally Posted by FrankenWashie
There is never a shortage of things to keep us occupied on these builds.
Nice looking PUP's. Are they HB's or P90's?
No idea waz there called nitro hemi mini aparently there a direct replacement for an gibson firebird pickup which must be smaller than the kit mini buckers.
I think there a mini humbucker
Yep, mini humbuckers. They look impressive and hope they as good as they look.
Attachment 26605 new pickup rings are coming along nice using the tounge oil i had left over from a job, as i have 10 litres of it its lookinggood for the next guitar
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All back together today, strings need to settle for a week or so, the new lace nitro hemi pickups have got some great bite. Only had a quick 5 min play to see if it all worked, cant wait to give it a good test out later in the week
I like it a lot Mr Barnes.