That orange as a solid paint on the top and then walnut back/sides would be cool. Faux binding would go down well too
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That orange as a solid paint on the top and then walnut back/sides would be cool. Faux binding would go down well too
Ditto this!Quote:
Originally Posted by Nickosaurus
bummer Pabs, you were always paranoid about the thickness of the veneer. When these kits were announced I was keen to buy one but the pre-drilled holes was a deal breaker for me. The factory hasn't fixed the position of the bridge pup cavity either.
Is it possible to try and mix the orange stain with a filler ? or fill and try and stain over the areas you went through ?
I'm with Nicko I'd try and save it before going to a solid paint option.
If the filler doesn't work I'd try solid paint in the same colour and tape off the black binding, might as well keep that visible
There's nothing to fill unfortunately and any more sanding is just going to make matters worse. I'm gonna head out to the paint shop in the next few days and see if they can colour match a paint for me. Here I was thinking I was done spending money on this project.
bummer Pabs, is it possible to put a black burst around the edge ? You still got to hide that veneer join line in the centre
A black burst would have to cover most of the exposed wood. I thought about it, not worth it imho.
yeah that's what I thought, would barely be much orange visible.
Hope you can find some orange paint. Will you need to grain fill it ?
Pabs, this is not a suggestion, as I'm sure you have already thought of this, but I am curious as to the answer...what about buying some veneer and re gluing it?
Hey Andy that is a good suggestion, its awkward though with the binding already on to get the veneer flat with the top of the binding. Plus quilted maple veneer is pretty rare and expensive
Thanks Wokks, fair enough, in case it happens to me some day...which i am sure it will.
I have thought about it, and I can't justify the headache of pulling and redoing the binding. I am also going to try sanding though the veneer completely (it won't be that hard) and staining the basswood. Just need to be thorough and get ALL the glue off.
that sucks pabs...
i have found, dare i say it, that if you sand the centre join more you can make it just about invisible, all kits i've had had pronounced glue in the centre join, and it's worked so far
as for the colour, ford or holden made an awesome burnt orange metallic similar to what you have - that would look amazing, oh an keep the binding as is
I nearly went through mine Pabs, that's a pisser what about Inlaying a central strip of wood Pabs.
glad you didn't sand through your veneer KB !
sounds like they are paper thin.
They are Woks I guess I was lucky, but did have to move bridge position, as you can see from pic. You can probably also see in pic where the quilt sanded pretty much off in areas. I did it all by hand but still managed to do it. What about a cone shaped inlay from bridge to back of guitar to hide that area and burst the rest to hide top bit Pabs
How about an orange burst, as in have colour matched solid orange on the outside with a bit of the grain showing through at the center?Quote:
Originally Posted by pablopepper
No idea if it would work, just trying to think out of left field
As a last throw of the dice... you could try pricking the areas with a super fine needle, just enough to pierce the glue's surface, and then do a couple of stain passes on them with a cotton tip etc. In the sand-through's the glue under the cap will be just like the centre join and repel stain. It may not work/help but there's a chance you could get enough stain to take to help the areas blend more then steel wool to even them out. If you have already resigned yourself to a solid colour it may be worth a try to save that awesome orange cap.
What about using it as a feature do the edges as ripped open wood curled edges. Couldn't find pic to show guitar. Maybe use real curls of wood.
Hey Pabs, what a bummer.Quote:
Originally Posted by pablopepper
Everyone here has mentioned most options however I think yours of sanding through to the Basswood underneath might be best if you want to show off any grain at all. Stan mentioned some auto paints and the metallic Ford colour that was on XR5 Focus a few years ago looks great but was a special paint that cost a fortune, check it out at http://www.nissansilvia.com/forums/i...owtopic=427187
There was also another orange on XR6 I think they called Octane but it looked more solid than metallic.
Good luck with trying to save it from here.
Centre join line behind the bridge seems to be an issue with this kit looking at both Pabs & Kimballs.Quote:
Originally Posted by kimball492
Veneer with black burst edges to blend it in with the black binding may be another option but means way more work.
From pics on website the cap looked thin. Is that what you guys thought when you first inspected the body?
Thanks for all the suggestions, fellas. I really wanted to avoid paint and spending any more money, so...
http://imgur.com/AX2Ohmo.jpg
The problem has been solved. Rather brutally, but solved none the less. Half an hour with the random orbit sander and 80 grit sandpaper. :(
so the veneer has gone Pabs, basswood doesn't look too bad.
Thought it would take about 2 mins with 80 grit orbital to remove the paper thin veneer
EDIT no worries Pabs I saw the original pic, then the new pic and revised my comment
Sorry Woks, i uploaded the wrong pic. Fixed now.
Looking better already.
http://i.imgur.com/d9PLlcu.jpg
Orange... I'm okay with this.
Nice and even mate. Was worried it would be darker due to grain change but looks great
Thanks man. It actually ended up going on lighter, the above pic is after three coats whereas the original pic with the maple top is only one pass.
looks excellent Pabs, love the burnt orange look. Glad this build is back on track. Presume the headstock face will be the same colour and natural neck ?
Cheers Wokka. Just natural for the neck and headstock.
sounds good Pabs, so naughty oil ?
Yeah. With the quilt I was going to do an acrylic gloss, but now I want a satin finish so TO it is.
good stuff Pabs, will see you in the naughty warehouse for a visit !
Visit? I thought I was a full time resident mate. :P
bwhahaha Pabs I'm not sure what everyone's sentence is in the NW. All I know I will be there 3 x life and that is growing every time DB visits my workshop haha
Looks good pabs, shame you lost the quilt, but this looks ok mate
I think we must be stepping up to a naughty condo by now....
Looking good Pabs. Great save. I do love a nice orange tele. The quilt was beautiful but I like this as well. Sure you dont want to go high gloss??
cheers,
Gav.
Thanks guys. Yeah it looks alright, still a bit dirty about losing the quilt.
Gav, are you volunteering? Lol. Nah, ever since I satined up the explorer, I've loved how it feels and looks. A workhorse finish, no fingerprints or sticky gloss.
http://i.imgur.com/tC187Go.jpg
More orange.
Pabs, I know its a sore point, but if you don't mind. I haven't sanded through a veneer before, I'm shit scared of doing it, could you give a rough idea as to how easy it was to sand through? like what grit etc?
These quilt veneers are way thinner than the flame ones I've seen. That said, it was way too easy. I sanded gently with 180, raised the grain with a damp cloth, sanded with 240 then with 400. I have a feeling the bad one on the top horn was there before I started.