I have had three sets on....the chinese ones...the ernie balls...and now it has daddarios.Quote:
Originally Posted by WeirdBits
Have you ever heard of two dead pickups????
I am tempted to take the P90's out and see if the humbuckers work.
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I have had three sets on....the chinese ones...the ernie balls...and now it has daddarios.Quote:
Originally Posted by WeirdBits
Have you ever heard of two dead pickups????
I am tempted to take the P90's out and see if the humbuckers work.
I feel it mate...thank you.....only vibes coming out of this guitar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simon Barden
2 dead pickups - No. Can you test the P90's with a multimeter to check their resistance? I had a very quiet PUP as the shielding/ground wire was not linked together.Quote:
Originally Posted by ozzbike
A photo (or three) of the control plate and its wiring may help. Make sure we can see all the joins. It's a pretty basic circuit, so there's not normally too much that can go wrong.
Are you reliant on the control plate providing the ground connection between the pots? I always wire the backs of the pots up regardless.
Simon,Quote:
Originally Posted by Simon Barden
Been busy finishing other builds. ...... and I was worried I would throw this one across the room.
I rewired it completely to the piccy from McCreed on his response to this thread.....I actually printed the piccy out and soldered up that rig.
https://www.buildyourownguitar.com.a...ad.php?t=11419
I have taken an oak Grigsby 3 way switch out of the harness and put the flat plastic kit one back in place and got the same story. I changed the volume pot.....and the capacitor.
The only things I have not changed are the jack socket, tone pot and the connections to the pickups......maybe take it all out and rewire the lot from scratch.
And the guitar lead is OK with another guitar?
Again, it's worth taking and posting a photo of the control plate wiring, just in case there's something glaringly obvious.
Otherwise you could temporarily disconnect the volume to tone pot connection, which would take the tone pot and capacitor out of the equation.
Pics of the actual build are always good. If it's wired as in the pics you referenced it should work and make some sound.
Since you haven't checked the jack, you might check to see if you got the connections reversed. I'd try that before anything else.
Next I'd disconnect the tone pot. That's probably not it, but I'd do it anyway.
Next jumper the hot lug to the center lug on your volume pot. That should take everything but the switch and the pickups out of the circuit.
You could try checking the pups with a multimeter, as has been suggested. It may be unlikely that both would be dead, but it's not impossible. A broken winding will result in a "1" on an Ohms meter.
Wow, and wow again.
I have replaced everything on this build.....and then put the wires from each cavity to an earth point back in.....same result...no or low sound.
The answer and reason.....bloody shielding....shape of jack socket holes...recessed jack socket...switchcraft jacks...and some bloke who looks like me who shielded everything.
Remove jack from body...plug in lead and really great sound.
Resolder the wires and re-shield the bits I had scraped away in the cavities. Turn the jack socket 1/4 turn...and re-insert into the body.
With everything shielded, these huge P90's have zero buzz/humm...dead quiet. I dont know if the Tonerider Rebel 90's are shielded or have mystic properties, but they are dead quiet and have some serious single coil bark....and twang. Wow.
This build is now complete with the import three way switch in position and the Oak Grigsby kept for another build. Pics of the finish to come once a setup is done.....the Bigsby style trem works well, but is hard to string up.
Shielding plus side mount jacks can easily cause hidden problems. Grab some wide heat-shrink tubing and slide it over the arm any time you’re doing a side mount, it’ll save headaches:
Attachment 40347
Glad you got it sorted.
Also wide heat shrink over the signal lug as well, so remember to slide it on over the output lead signal wire before soldering that on.
Sadly,Quote:
Originally Posted by WeirdBits
I had that on the hook end already. Maybe not enough....or as Simon said...the live lug on the jack was touching the side of the jack rout. I turned it about 1/4 turn and away it went. I have resoldered both joints with heat shrink over both of them.
P.S. I have now checked two other guitars I have had intermittent connectivity issues with....and guess what...same issue. All fixed now.
After many starts and stops she is finally finished. "The Head Case" has arrived. :)
The shielding has made her nearly completely quiet. I find this amazing considering she has those huge P90's.
The fat strings are not quite to intonation requirements.....I may have to swap the bridge saddles around to allow a smidge more forward movement.
The neck sits up as little at the front of the neck pocket. A small gap under the end of the body. I had to file and sand the ends and side of the pickguard to get it to fit between the pickup rings and around the end of the switch plate.
It is honestly a pity I can't play a six string....because my noodling up and down the neck in pentatonic scales has such a magic sound.
If you are considering a little different kit I can highly recommend this one.
The body has a natural wood faux binding on the back opposite the nice white binding on the front edge of the body. I used Feast Watson dyes on this one. The front and back of the body is Maple, the sides and the neck are Golden Teak. A thinned and mixed Golden Teak and Maple stain is on the front of the headstock.
Hand made complete wiring harness using CTS pots, orange drop cap, switchcraft jack socket, recessed Telecaster chrome jack socket. Grover lock tuners, bone nut, heavy metal knobs with grub screw lock, Tone Rider Rebel P90 pickups, and sealed with Cabots poly on the body and neck. Gloss on the body and neck.
Very nice! Sometimes the ones that cause the most grief, come out the best. Or sometimes they're just a s**tload of grief!!!
She is lucky she plays and sounds so nice......otherwise she may have become a bin resident. Phew.Quote:
Originally Posted by McCreed
I think burning in effigy would have been more fun! (and cathartic)Quote:
...otherwise she may have become a bin resident.
Those colours look great! You’re giving me bad ideas (I don’t need another guitar). Stop inspiring me!
How about a sound demo to hear those pickups?
Mark you are a hard task master....just threw this up on YouTube.....nice video of my legs as the phone was leaning on its mount ring. Sounds from a JOYO DC-30 modelling amp....from clean, crunch, lead and metal models.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkMark
Still embarrassing.....but this guitar just plays so well....I love the tones from it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvd-JIAI12A
Good on ya! As you said, the shielding has made it nice and quiet. I haven’t heard too many demos of other pickup brands I hear people talking about here, but Tonerider do impress me. I enjoyed your demo. Thank you very much.
Well done Ozz, looks great, sounds great. Love P90's!
'Tis a pity a can't play a guitar better....it is fun noodling about though. Those humbucker sized P90's are amazing.Quote:
Originally Posted by robin
Thanks for the good thoughts. :)