Yep, not too shabby! They're doing all the internal acoustic stuff tomorrow. Vinyl layer, ply, green glue and acoustic plasterboard.
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Yep, not too shabby! They're doing all the internal acoustic stuff tomorrow. Vinyl layer, ply, green glue and acoustic plasterboard.
Ya gotta love pre-fab! That's looking great.
Is the glass double glazed? I'll be interested to hear what level of sound reduction you get when finished.
When are you moving in???
Double-glazed, laminated acoustic glass. Will be doing some measurements when it's done.
First stage of the build completes in the next couple of days but it'll be another couple of weeks before the plastering, painting, electrics etc.
End of day two and they're done with this bit of the build. Back in a fortnight for caulking and plastering (once everything's had time to settle.
Outside:
https://i.imgur.com/Wdbe9H8.jpg
Looking in:
https://i.imgur.com/2HSPOGH.jpg
Looking out-ish:
https://i.imgur.com/83KR46h.jpg
Sweet. You going with carpet wall-to-wall, or area rugs?
Also, when the time comes, some good quality blockout curtains hung to cover the glass doors work great for deflecting sound off the glass. You can spend a motza on proper acoustic curtains (weigh a tonne) but probably overkill for your purposes.
floor will be laminate with rugs if I need to tame the reflections. I'm going to be building a moveable structure that will hold nine 1.2m x 0.6m x0.01m rockwool absorbers. This will mostly sit at the mixing position but where I need to tame the recording space it will be rolled across the room to control reflections.
That's the theory at any rate. I also have a couple of duvets to hang where and when required. :)
Looks sweet so far, Drew ... and looks to be the perfect size for a one-man operation; big enough so everything can have it's place, yet small enough to easily reach everything. I like it.
That's the plan, obviously a bigger room to fit the whole band in would have been nice, but then i'd be moving house. And as soon as you start talking about real drums then you're into real sound-proofing, which means real money...
So all in all, i think it will work for me when it's all done.
Today has mostly been caulking
https://i.imgur.com/kKVaHbD.jpg
Something tells me this space is going to require a lot of treatment!
https://youtu.be/pJnGeDsly6M
I have a similar sized space, albeit with a pitched ceiing to about 2.7m. I made 5 absorbsion panels for the walls and trapped the corners. The addition of a couple skyline type diffusers made a big difference to mine with regard to upper mids. My space is setup more for recording than mixing tho. It would be hard to to both in the same spacen (particularly with acoustic drums).
Yep, I'm not planning on recording any drums in there - that might push the tolerance of the neighbours a bit too far. I've got plans for bass trapping the corners, treating the reflection points, a cloud and some diffusion at the back. But I'lll be measuring as I go along as well to see how things change.
Cavernous!!!
Indeed, plasterers arriving tomorrow, two weeks until it's all done.
Things have been a bit slow whilst the suppliers and I resolved our differences on the sound proofing, however we have come to a mutually satisfying result and so I can start cracking on.
The first step is fixing the mistake I made with the specifications and sorting out the holes cut into the acoustic treatment.
Step one, make some 'plugs' with four layers of acoustic plasterboard, glue, leave under pressure to set:
https://i.imgur.com/vpjfEQu.jpg
Next add the new surface-mount electrical boxes, glue, leave under pressure:
https://i.imgur.com/1Jc8AoA.jpg
Finally, slather everything with acoustic caulk and fill all gaps with the same:
https://i.imgur.com/yyOVBIf.jpg
All that x4. Painting will happen later to tidy things up a bit. They're bulky, boxy and stick out a lot, but they'll be much less obvious once the bass trap frames are in place and they've made a significant difference to the overall sound proofing. When it's not raining the room is now as quiet as the quietest room in my house. Not bad for a standalone, single-skin shed. :)
Speaking of bass traps, I got a bit of work done on the framework whilst waiting for glue to dry:
https://i.imgur.com/32oAUIJ.jpg
Nice weather today so got a bit more done. Started working on the corner bass traps. There'll be a frame in each corner with a stack of rockwool top and bottom.
Basic frame:
https://i.imgur.com/zTm6oIh.jpg
Two frames painted and done:
https://i.imgur.com/AZiAcN7.jpg
Would have got a bit further but lost time correcting a piece of previous muppetry that I hadn't noticed until I started working on the second frame. :headbang:
It was ever thus.
Progress during the week was kyboshed by that little thing that we refer to as work. Well, those of us who haven't retired yet...
But this weekend was a bit more productive.
Cut and PVA-ing rockwool for a couple of corners:
https://i.imgur.com/ZvkMYB1.jpg
One corner frame with rockwool stuffed:
https://i.imgur.com/x1uBQf2.jpg
And one finished frame:
https://i.imgur.com/KTFxvOh.jpg
Not fully installed yet but you get the idea.
2 corners done, 2 just need stuffing and cara-ing.
And then that's the easy bit done...
I keep the bass trap
Against the wall
It hides a nasty stain that's lying there...
no damp yet! :D
I've often felt that making broadband absorbers using 4"x1" timber and additional corner bracing was over-engineering, especially when using 60Kg/m3 rockwool.
So here's the test panel with 1"x1.5" roofing batten timber, with supporting straps of weed-blocker (2 front to hold the rockwool in place, 1 rear to stop the panels flexing outward).
Front:
https://i.imgur.com/wvf115B.jpg
Back:
https://i.imgur.com/NyOiDGK.jpg
With cara:
https://i.imgur.com/h6Kih8n.jpg
4 blocks and the next batch of frames:
https://i.imgur.com/ElRMWtp.jpg
And that was it for this weekend. :)
Where are those going to go?
Fixed to the wall somewhere, or are they movable?
Do you reckon you'll need treatment on the ceiling? (clouds?)
Two (and two small ones) on the wall behind the desk, two on each side wall, three as ceiling-wall corner panels, 2 as a ceiling cloud. The back wall will be diffusion rather than absorption. I'll also have a little rockwool left for another small panel but I'm not sure if/where to use it.
Is the space big enough to make diffusion useful? Or is it 'natural' diffusion because it's going to be shelves/bookcase etc?
Probably not and yes respectively. :)
Not the most productive weekend, but mostly focused on the frame for the end set of broadband absorbers:
Testing the frame fit:
https://i.imgur.com/xJK6lH0.jpg
Frame built and set:
https://i.imgur.com/gdEVZVJ.jpg
With a couple of panels mounted:
https://i.imgur.com/APpTay7.jpg
There will be two smaller panels going on the end of the arms.
Almost done all of the rest of the panel frames but you know what they look like... ;)
Do you realise that there's someone copying everything you do over on the SOS forum? ;)
I thought they were going to be wall-mounted. You don't think the little "out-rigger" in the front is going to a problem?
Seems like it could be a trip hazard, but I may be just clumsy.
So i'm not the only two left footed forumite? ( I really should get Igor to fix that)Quote:
Originally Posted by McCreed
I would catch that thing with a hoof every time I walked near it!Quote:
Originally Posted by FrankenWashie
Then probably end up smashing it!
The structure of the wall isn't good for bearing weight. The leg will have a guitar rack either side and a desk in front of it so it won't be a trip hazard once everything's in place. Until then I will doubtless be referring to it as 'that b@stard thing' on a regular basis.
The FrankenLab has a central load bearing beam for the floor above which is regularly referred to in such terms. Either it is 5 cm too low, or I am 5cm too tall. Not sure which.Quote:
Originally Posted by blinddrew
Maybe it's actually 2cm too high and you're 7 cm too tall?
Good thing Igor is hunched over. Unless his hump is high enough to catch it!Quote:
The FrankenLab has a central load bearing beam for the floor above which is regularly referred to in such terms. Either it is 5 cm too low, or I am 5cm too tall. Not sure which.
Well, it doesn't look like much but i've now made all the broad band absorbers and cut most of the timber for the main frame:
https://i.imgur.com/8N4CGY7.jpg
Putting that lot together and working out how much to counter-stress the overhead timbers is the next job.
Gentle music, candles and some soothing essential oils in a diffuser? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by blinddrew
I'll try some whalesong next week :)
A bit of progress today. End frames ready:
https://i.imgur.com/754LUdI.jpg
Spent a fair bit of time on it this weekend but not sure the progress really shows. Lots of measuring-twice going on.
Anyway, pre-stressed overhead beams:
https://i.imgur.com/yWGWKBl.jpg
Lifted into place and with bracing struts:
https://i.imgur.com/zSO9Pbf.jpg
Reverse view:
https://i.imgur.com/cQIHPoP.jpg
Test panel hung:
https://i.imgur.com/2mYcJFE.jpg
I may have over-engineered the frame a bit - I can do a pull-up on it! :)
Still, it shouldn't sag in the middle when all the panels are up and that was the main thing I was going for. :)
https://i.imgur.com/2mYcJFE.jpg
That's not the best location I've ever seen for a spare bed. Are you going to add straps to that mattress and some Velcro to hold a pillow on with?
I'm highly impressed you can do a pull up! I certainly can't. It looks a very well engineered structure at any rate and as Igor always says:
"Overkill ith Underrated Thir".