SV-1 build

Hi folks,
Thanks FrankenWashie, the pics were exactly the same as I had set out.

So the neck is screwed into position, the strings are on and now the fiddle bit getting everything just right. On the whole, the setup is just about perfect. The high E string is about 1.5mm higher than the low E which means a very small adjustment of the post screw that the bridge mounts against. One thing I did learn in my surfing was to release all pressure off the bridge, strings and springs before adjusting these screws as if you don’t do this, you tend to stuff up the knife edge.

So it’s all finished and playable. Now for the fiddle adjustments to get it perfect.

Am trying to get some pics on my camera to upload to my laptop where I can adjust the size to be able to post. Can’t workout how to do that in this iPad thing.

If you down load the Tapatalk app for your iPad, it gives you resize options for any photos you want to post. I’ve found it invaluable.

Thanks for that FrankenWashie. I'll try it. by the way, i was reading a book called the bible and in Proverbs 13 v14 - "The advice of a wise man refreshes like water from a mountain spring"
That's a way of thanking you for your advice. my measurements were exactly the same but your advice was what i needed to go ahead.
Now for the fiddly bits like adjusting the bridge mounting screws to get the strings level across the neck.
Then is mounting the back cover - therein is a problem.
The routing for the trem bar goes right through the body which makes it very hard to place the back plate. The screw doesn't like going into nothing. If the routing at the back did not go right through for the trem bar, then it would be easy to fit it.

umm, tapatalk took me to strange places that was nothing to do with photo's, just chat sessions. am still looking. have photo editor but it doesn't let me resize the pics

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umm, tapatalk took me to strange places that was nothing to do with photo's, just chat sessions. am still looking. have photo editor but it doesn't let me resize the pics

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Really?
strange, you download and then search for the BYOG forum and log in and it should give you all of the threads and discussions? Weird.

ok. so am down loading the tapatalk with 200,000 + forums. Hmm very bad connection here still.

still nothing.

Attachment 25693 Am hope its the pic

oh. now you can see my SV1 and my Aria that Merve Cargil built for me. The SV-1 is so white, I should have used some more stain, but it plays very well.
The frets on the Aria are so low, but this i have not shaved off much to make it a very playable guitar.
I've got to get a player to try it out before making many adjustments

still trying to get a pic editor that I'm happy with

If you have an iPhone “Image Resize+” is pretty easy to use.


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Originally Posted by Buchanfarmer

oh. now you can see my SV1 and my Aria that Merve Cargil built for me. The SV-1 is so white, I should have used some more stain, but it plays very well.
The frets on the Aria are so low, but this i have not shaved off much to make it a very playable guitar.
I've got to get a player to try it out before making many adjustments

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There we go! Honestly I like the blonde look on this, still not a fan of that kit inlay but that is a personal preference thing. Not everyone on this forum is mad enough to strip a perfectly good fretboard off a perfectly good neck to replace it with something else!
your photo reminds me I need to check on how my body is curing. Might possibly get it finished at some point this year. Maybe. 🤔😂

sorry folks, only ipad, phone which doesn't chat to the ipad but does with laptop. and laptop which doesn't chat with ipad after upgrade to the latest IOS

everything was going good until a bug an had to reset this ipad junk. had uploaded everything to laptop, but now they dont chat any more.

back to guitars,

Hope FrankieWashie your body cures soon. Did you chat to a Doctor? haha

To be honest, i did not even bother to look at the inlay as its the action - that is the lack of buzz and the fret size as well as the string height which makes it work.
I would have put a lot more stain into the wood though, but here the lighting is so bad its like being in a cellar with just a candle light. Sorry FrankenWashie, I used to live in Germany and the all the houses had cellars. Mine had the washing machine and dryer which meant it was damp all the time. Probably why i never built the small acoustic guitars - but that's next I hope

Hi Rock Factor, nice video. reminds me of when i played last at the cafe. i thought i was fairly good but then the main act came on. Wow.
Don't have any 'I' things except for this ipad. don't actually like apple products as they seen like stone soup to me. the only reason i got this was because I couldn't get any internet connection except with this and by mobile phone data. now Telstra in their infinite wisdom have put in a new tower just 6km away but pointed it away from me so my connection is very very low at one dot of 3G
don't really blame them as i am the only one this side of the tower. yes i live in a very remote part of Victoria. nearest neighbor is about 5km away. yes its nice as i can make as much noise as i wish, only the sheep and cows, maybe fox's and wild dogs care.
So with about 1000 watts of power, its a blast - or could be if i turned it up.

ok, still finishing the SV-1 but looking forwards to building two small guitars for which i have most parts except the fret material. tools too are a bit sparse. I need to make a few small planes as i cant afford the ones from Stew-Mac

Now to try and finish this SV-1. The back plate is a problem for me. the spring bracket is about 12mm both ends from the body but one side is a little bit higher and the back plate will not get over it without work. so I bent that side down a little - then the plate will fit - NOTE to Adam - the routing on the bottom side should not go right through for the tremelo. the trem doesn't need the whole body to work.
If this was how it was made, then the spring hole would be just a rectangle and i would haven't had any issue.

Now back to planning, what guitar is next?
I would love to make an SG type to replace the one I sold about 30 years ago to buy a car. Sorry it was just the deposit.

Here is my new question please:

How much lower should I tune the strings before putting on the clamps on the nut? I have the tuning screws just touching, so the only way I could tune is by screwing these in if I put the clamps on at about one fret low.

Oh the cat scan has finished - she has said "yeh it's ok" or was that where's my food?:rolleyes:

Last time I had a band, I owned all the equipment except for their guitars and the drums - although I was going to buy a set fpr ne drummer.
This time I seem to be making a group of my own. Ive only got 2 hands and one only works 50% because of spinal damage - the specialist says i have spinal degeneration - so I can say for real that I am a degenerate. Just got fitted for hearing aids today, wow I can hear.
I saw some things on the net like Sid Grondman's Fhone equipment. Sid used to build amps and speakers. I bought my first Fhone from a used car dealer it was used as a deposit. then Sid made me a PA with 2 speaker boxes that would fit into my car each 4 x 12ux speakers. I still use those speakers but the amp, mouse pee and transformers don't mix well.

I always set my fine tuners to their mid-position, tune up, then clamp at the nut. You never know if you'll need to fine-tune down or up, so I find mid-way is best.

Those clamping nuts really need a string bar to pull the strings down onto the headstock side of the nut. Only a few $ but they make a big difference to the locking nut's performance. You can then tune up on the main tuners without the clamping action affecting the tuning at all. It also means that the clamps are only holding the string in place, they aren't also trying to bring the strings down onto the face of the locking nut.

https://hazeguitars.com/blog/locking...bar-adjustment

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I always set my fine tuners to their mid-position, tune up, then clamp at the nut. You never know if you'll need to fine-tune down or up, so I find mid-way is best.

Those clamping nuts really need a string bar to pull the strings down onto the headstock side of the nut. Only a few $ but they make a big difference to the locking nut's performance. You can then tune up on the main tuners without the clamping action affecting the tuning at all. It also means that the clamps are only holding the string in place, they aren't also trying to bring the strings down onto the face of the locking nut.

https://hazeguitars.com/blog/locking...bar-adjustment

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Yeah I second that, I had some tun8ng stability issues with the FrankenWashie, finally got around to fitting the string bar that cam with the Floyd kit, tuning issues went away.

Hi guys, this sounds interesting but is it right for the SV-1? I looked at his site and seems genuine advice.but the real question is, using what was supplied, do I just down tune, say one half tone, put the clamps in place, then use the bridge tuners to get back to tune?

I tend to have the fine tuners more than halfway out when I lock it all down, as I tend to find fr trems tend to go flat rather than sharp... could be my setup though. I'm going to pop a f r special in my SV1 as the stock one seems to be arguing with me more than the special I popped into the van halen.

ok. then maybe a whole tone down - the fine tuners on the bridge are not engaged at all yet. so what i am hoping is that if I clamp on now, then i can use the fine tuners to get it right?

Just go with trial and error. You'll find what works for your guitar.

But it really is worth spending a few $ and getting a string bar, then you can tune up to normal pitch,and clamp down without worrying about by how much the string pitch rises as you clamp.

thanks Simon. Now for the intonation. everything was sweet until I pressed down one side of the spring retainer bracket. one side was a little bit hi by a few mm and the back cover couldn't be put on. that seemed to change everything as before the intonation seemed to be very good. now on the top E its out a fair bit.
I have to check with my meter but here the electric fencing actually interferes with the meter so i have to go by sound.

Now to alter a little bit the backing plate. A little tricky but I do have a press for my Dremmel I got in Germany so I can make a straight cut in the opening for the spring assembly.
There is one thing I have noticed, the nut is not locked yet as I am trying to let the whole thing settle and the wether here is + and -. Plus has been high as 43 inside and cold as -2.3. Yeh cat crawled under the old down sleeping bag I had on top of a blanket over my German summer Doona .
So the guitar has been in and out of heat and humidity stress.

There is one thing I noted as I keep playing it a bit like a Rythm guitar, was that a little energy on the neck changes a lot the clearance on the frets at the last fret before the bridge. Maybe I should check again with my neck gauge level to see if it’s all ok or was the rod not screwed just tight and now it’s loose?
Time will tell.

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Now to alter a little bit the backing plate. A little tricky but I do have a press for my Dremmel I got in Germany so I can make a straight cut in the opening for the spring assembly.
There is one thing I have noticed, the nut is not locked yet as I am trying to let the whole thing settle and the wether here is + and -. Plus has been high as 43 inside and cold as -2.3. Yeh cat crawled under the old down sleeping bag I had on top of a blanket over my German summer Doona .
So the guitar has been in and out of heat and humidity stress.

There is one thing I noted as I keep playing it a bit like a Rythm guitar, was that a little energy on the neck changes a lot the clearance on the frets at the last fret before the bridge. Maybe I should check again with my neck gauge level to see if it’s all ok or was the rod not screwed just tight and now it’s loose?
Time will tell.

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I have found a similar thing with mine, some “energetic” play sees things move a fair bit. The stock springs just didn’t cut it and I had to beef them up with a outlet of extras to get some stability on the trem.
The stock nut is rubbish and doesn’t hold squat in terms of locking. I will be upgrading this and adding the retainer bar to sort out the wandering tune it seems to have.


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Please, where did you buy the extra springs from? Also it shows your backing plate is routed in, did you do that or is that how it was supplied?

Now, I have still been playing this thing as a rythm guitar. Then I have found some documents I down loaded in about 1998 that has many pics of this guitar. I did not realise I had this stuff

In those times all I was interested in was Guildo Horn, a German who competed in the Eurovision. I have many of his cd’s. He is actually a doctor of mucus and also children’s health I think. Yes many of his songs were take-offs of everyone else but in German language. I thought he was very good actually as a singer and his band was called in English - the old persons socks.
I think

Interesting that the Swedish group that took Australia by storm has decided to come together again but using the magic of computers to make us believe they are just as young as they were. Oh ABBA, yes I have some of your cd’s as well.

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Please, where did you buy the extra springs from? Also it shows your backing plate is routed in, did you do that or is that how it was supplied?

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Hey Farmer, there are plenty of online places you can get springs from, Australian Luthiers SUpply, eBay etc. These i got with a couple of Cheap FR knockoffs from china. 4 of them cost me about 28 bucks.
the spring cover is routed in, I did that before I started the first attempts at painting, 2 colours and much sandpaper in the past.

Now back to reality and this SV-1. Yes I have done it a bit different. The front strap holder I placed in the neck area where it joins the body. I did try about the same area as my Aria, but it did not feel right.
So it’s like a guitar you can throw about because of the strap being on the back of the neck.
Not that I throw guitars please, it was all about the balance of this thing.

Ok thanks for that. Boy this guitar is getting more complex than I first thought, but it is now staying in tune even with the temp changes. Oh just started a little rain about 2mm in 24 hours I thinking.

As you have all said, every guitar is a special instrument and needs special care to make it sounding good.