That's 2/5 of the family. Master 7 and Ms 3 were on their iPads at the time :)Quote:
Originally Posted by OliSam
No wonder I'm going grey 😃
Robbo
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That's 2/5 of the family. Master 7 and Ms 3 were on their iPads at the time :)Quote:
Originally Posted by OliSam
No wonder I'm going grey 😃
Robbo
I thought so but after a big day at work I wasn't sure :)Quote:
Originally Posted by wokkaboy
Robbo
I was going to do a blue burst, from dark blue to almost black, but I'm liking the raw look af this one, and so does the boss.
If I go for the raw look I'll probably change out the pick guard to a black one, or maybe even none.
Robbo.
It's calling out to be sea foam green.
I thought I heard muttering from the garage last night, must have been what it was ;)
Robbo
Looks good Robbo and have to agree with scrapping the pick guard no matter what colour you choose.
Ordered the Bondi Blue Dingotone finish kit and I'm thinking no pick guard the more I look at it.
Robbo
Good choice Robbo.
Just a heads up....I have seen a few Bondi Blue builds and most have looked quite faded so if you want a fair bit of depth in the colour don't sand any higher than 120 grit. In fact go absolutely nuts with 120 to get it as smooth as you can and then do 1st stain coat and watch how it really soaks in. Save finer grits for finishing off after final clear coats have been done unless of course you want a faded denim look.
Cheers, Waz
Hmm, thanks Waz.
I'm actually aiming for something like this but obviously no where near the figuring.
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I may need to rethink.
When the finish gets here I'll do some testing.
Thanks for the advice.
Robbo
Hi Robbo, that looks like colourtone blue but you would need to order the stuff from USA to make sure you got the full strength stuff. I bought some cherry red and mahogany from an OZ supplier 18 months ago and it was watered down and the cherry had about as much 'Zing' as red food colouring. Ended up mixing it with fountain pen ink to get the desired colour.
DT is very unique and from personal experience I had a couple of batches of Coolangatta Gold that were different shades. First batch of Gold and Outback Sunset were translucent whilst next batch of Gold was opaque and took a lot longer and more effort to achieve the desired colour. These were all DT MkI experiences and believe MkII is now better. It appears to be more of an oily based product so mixing in other things to alter the colour is not so easy. That said, another DT colour might help and in this instance it would need to be Black Stump, just a little to make the Bondi Blue a bit darker.
Check out my EX-5 where I mixed up a brew of OS & CG and had the shock of my life when it came out bright orange as I was trying to lighten up the OS as it was a darker shade than what I had planned.
Lots of fun to be had experimenting and mixing up different colours but well worth it if straight out of the bottle is not quite what you want.
I was thinking I could just add some inks to the dye if necessary, but if it seems oil based this won't work at all.
I'm pretty easy going on this stuff, so I'll give it a go and if I don't like it I'll worry about it then.
Sometimes things turn out differently to how you plan but and up being better.
It's just a fun, learning exercise. Thanks for the heads up, I'll post pics as I get through it.
Robbo
No worries Robbo.
I tested many different things on builds 1 - 4 but not what other stuff would mix with DT. What I did learn is that Tru Oil does not like water based stuff added and whilst it is obviously more oil based when compared to DT tend to suspect it would react in a similar way.
A cheap way to find out is to buy some small round plastic storage containers from Woolies for about $2 for a pack of 8 and start mixing a few drops of this and that in some to figure out what works and also looks good. Cheap fine paintbrushes can also be purchased in a pack of 10 for small change too. Scrap bit of pine works best for the sample strips as it should be a similar colour to basswood and thus provide a close indication how things might turn out. Of all the additives I experimented with fountain pen ink was the easiest to work with and strongly recommend never using ink pad ink as it tends to have a rather gooey oily state that looks crap straight out of the container being rather dull and lacking depth of colour.
If the budget allows and your up for experimenting with DT you're probably better off sticking with different shades or colours of the stuff or PM/email DB asking him to make up a custom colour as that is what Andy did on his Rosewood coloured Strat which featured in July GOTM.
Not much of an update at the moment. Just another dry fit while I wait for my stain kit. The pickups didn't quite fit as the tabs seemed a bit too long. I was going to get a Dremel and widen the pickup pocket but I grabbed a name brand pickup and it fit in just fine, so I filed the tabs down a little til thy fit. Job's a gooden.
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There are a few pits in the fretboard that I'm unsure what to do with. Reckon they need filling or just oil it up as is.
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It's a bit tough to see in the pics but you can feel the pits. My gut feeling is they'll be fine but interested in others thoughts.
If the colour comes out as Waz suggested above as a faded denim I think it will actually work pretty well with the look I'm going for.
Robbo
Hey Robbo does the fingerboard feel like it's dropping in height a bit between frets ? What I do is get a rubber/eraser and wrap 180 or 240 grit sandpaper around it and rub the fingerboard. Be worth trying to get it flatter. The rubber will allow the sandpaper to be similar radius to the fingerboard.
Mock build looks good
Hey man, no the fretboard seems pretty flat to these tired old eyes. There's just a bit of funky stuff going on around the 7th and 8th fret. I'll give it a light sanding as you suggest, I'm just trying to sand with the grain to avoid any issues.
Robbo.
Dingo Wax will sort things out on that fretboard once you have done the light sanding.
Bondi blue dingotone came today...
I know what I'll be doing tomorrow arvo :)
Robbo
Reminds me of an old Skyhooks song.....Everybody's wearin' blue jeans / Everybody's got their own scenes / Everybody's lost in daydreams / But everybody's wearin' blue jeans.....
Have fun and I bet you will now be humming along to this tune as you do.
Hmm...
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Thought I did everything right. Wet it down looking for glue spots, the whole bottom of the front is a giant glue smear.
The dye will not penetrate some areas around the outside and the grain on the back just looks wet and dirty.
I'll give it a few days to dry, sand and paint.
Robbo.
Bummer about the glue but all is not lost
Be careful sanding that cap, I'd be be tempted to do a solid colour in acrylic paint on back & sides and work it in on the top as a burst.
Spraygun or rattle can for the back & sides and airbrush on the top.
There are plenty of vids on YT showing how to do it, just have a practice on some scrap timber first to get the technique right
A narrow burst might solve the fronts problem. It's a shame the back isn't all one grain type or the other as they both look good but not 1/2 and 1/2. I 'd solid paint the back and sides and burst the front.
I'm not too worried about it as I wasn't 100% convinced on the colour before I started. I'm only $30 and a couple of hours in the hole. As you say I'll paint it in enamel as the dingo tone is oil/wax based so just need to spend some time and cabbage at my local repco or SCA. I don't have a red or white guitar so they're the front runners ATM.
I also have very limited time and energy as well as dealing with a crook back, so I'm looking for a pretty quick and easy finish.
I would like to try a copper at stainless finish but I'm not that brave.
Robbo
I've used acrylic for the burst over DT Cooloongatta Gold top on the Tuff Dog and had absolutely no problems, I'd saty away from enamel unless you feel committed to go that way.
Pic here http://www.buildyourownguitar.com.au...l=1#post145113
I'll be flatting it off tomorrow in preparation for the clear coats as noted in that post
That's good to know, thanks Dave.
I've been watching your build. Looks fabulous, great job.
Robbo.
I know your pain there Robbo.... I had a partscaster Tele build do pretty much the same thing to me. A DRparts sealed Alder body doesn't take stain well at all...It actually came out looking so much like faded denim that I decided to turn it into a real denim covered Tele. Still working on the process of combining the denim and the binding into something that looks and feels decent, but the intent is certainly there...Quote:
Originally Posted by Rockfactor
Keep at it, and you will win eventually....
Hi Robbo, bummer about how that turned out.
Fairly typical result when using DT on Basswood and if you sanded past 120 there would have been very few open pores left for any stain to soak into. It can be salvaged if you are prepared to strip back with 80 and sand up again to a smooth finish with 120. Even so, I am yet to see a good example of Bondi Blue as it looks too washed out on most builds.
Tend to agree with Dedman about the mismatched grain on the back. Not such a big deal as it won't be the side most folks would be looking at but if it bugs you then a darker or solid colour would hide that.
Strange that the front did not suffer the same mismatched grain. Doesn't look like a veneer and only glue seepage would have been near the binding. Still reckon it is Basswood just doing its thing.
Blue or green stains are also less forgiving unfortunately. You could try an gentle wire brushing of the glue smear on the front then try restaining.
Unfortunately not much work done on this, illness, minor house renos, three kids, demanding wife, demanding job etc etc but I did get some sanding done in preparation for a paint job over the failed stain attempt.
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I am going to get a Graphtech Tusq nut, but was thinking a black one might be better on the dark fretboard? Anyone have a guitar with a black nut? Google images help a bit but it is tough to really get a feel based on a pic on the computer screen. Does it look weird with nice shiny frets and a black nut?
Cheers in advance...
Robbo
I have black nuts on two of mine and I think it looks great.
That is an awesome sanding face!
Damn, Robbo, I know that Bondi blue just doesn't seem to take as deeply as the other DT colours, I do not know why....
If you ever see my SGD-612, the body is Basswood and the necks are maple, I used Black stump, Karajini red, outback sunset and Coollangatta gold for the burst and I had no issues at all with the basswood grain taking the DT. I sanded to 240 grit then, ebony timbermate to seal it then sanding again to 240 grit before applying any DT. basswood and maple had no problem taking the stain at all
I am completely stumped here mate sorry
I also will do an black nut on my build. First because the stock nut is just a piece of hollow cheap plastic and secondly because it will look better.
Its not just DT, I remember the Wudtone blues and greens also gave "patchy" results. Obviously something about how those colours work with wood. Or maybe its a perception thing, perhaps browns, yellows and reds are also as "patchy" but don't look like it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy40
I'm not too worried about the failed stain experiment to be honest. I'm looking forward to getting it painted up and playable. Ordered the new black nut today :)
Robbo.
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So what are you thinking colour-wise for the over paint?
Yes, do tell!??Quote:
Originally Posted by Sonic Mountain
Blue maybe?
Sorry, been pretty busy. I have chosen this colour
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Should look pretty cool with the chrome Bigsby style tremolo I think. Is it close to SFG?
Robbo
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It certainly is close to those swings ;)
And yes, also close to SFG :)
looks great Robbo, don't tell Franky isn't a fan of seafoam green, but I love it, suits a tele really well !
Looks more blue than green.....let's just call it turquoise.
Either way it looks much better now.