Well we would need your help with the solos there Adam ;)Quote:
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Well we would need your help with the solos there Adam ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by adam
MP3? Why not a .wav file? I know MP3s are smaller and convenient for web streaming but you want to keep everything uncompressed until the final product. And Soundcloud recompress anything posted to a 128bps mp3, which is basically rubbish, but easy on their bandwidth.
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Originally Posted by wokkaboy
You could even try using Audacity to record your part, Audacity is an open source (and free) sound recording app.
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Originally Posted by Bass Guy
A multitrack version, with each instrument with it's own track would be cool, but I reckon I could quite easily work with a single audio file if I just import it into FL Studio.
Seeing as I've got my LP Studio guitar here with me at home, I could get my part recorded this weekend.
Ok- are there any other better ways to do it? I ask as I'm basically a luddite. 😀Quote:
Originally Posted by Simon Barden
One question, when we go to record our parts, do we need to record it dry (ie: un-effected), or will it be okay to record it effected?, I was thinking of recording my part with my LP Studio guitar going into my TS-808 pedal, into FL Studio and then use a couple of plugins, like an amp simulator and NadIR (speaker cab emulator) to get a good tone, I'm sort of in two minds about it, cause I'm not sure how the various guitar parts are going to be mixed-down to a stereo track.
It should be ok to record effected- I will be. But have a listen and play to the track when it lands and judge from there.
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No worries then, I guess we'll cross that bridge when we come to it, can't wait to hear the backing track.
I know a .wav file is larger and it might take a few minutes do download or upload for those with slower internet connections, but there will be a better end result if we can keep it in .wav format until the final mix.
Do you have a dropbox account Bass Guy, or something similar; cloud storage where you can upload it and publish a link to it so that it can be downloaded? That would be the easiest way. People could do the same thing with their finished guitar/bass track for you to download and mix.
I think that your tracks should be pretty much as you want them to sound. Bass Guy can add a bit of global reverb to tie it all together, or you could leave it off an add a note to say that you want a lot/little room/plate reverb added etc. But anything else should really be on the track.
Don't forget that you only need to send the guitar/bass track. It should be on its own and not a complete mixdown that includes the backing track. Just include from the start of your part and leave maybe one or two bars extra at the end for any effects or reverb trails you've printed to end.
ok kids lots going on - great.
We need a way to decide who does what and for how long...
I propose this, unless someone has a better idea, or wants to take over:
BG uploads his awesome work to the most appropriate platform...
We head on over , get a feel for it and play with it at home.
I take a list of names for those who are in.
If you have a preferred section let me know.
I'll divide the tune into phrases and allocate everyone a time frame - e.g. Stan gets from 01.27 - 02.15 or something like that.
Practice your bit and submit to the compiler - seems like sending it back to BassGuy makes the most sense... open to suggestion...
The compiler(s) do their thing and upload the final product and we all say yay at fun well had...
This is the bit where I need help:
Being a recording Luddite myself - how do we save our parts?
Do we simply submit our own part, or include the backing (I'm guessing the first...)?
Anything I've forgotten or over looked?
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Originally Posted by stan
Not knowing how other contributors are going to record their parts, one way I can think of to save parts is to export the part as an audio file with the backing track muted, but there may be an easier way to do it.
If you do that, make sure you include information, like the tempo and sample rate, etc.
It definitely needs to tracks without the backing track that need to be sent through to Pesty/Kimball/whoever ends up mixing it. They can then piece them into the mix. As far as track format I'd leave that up to the mixers to decide what works best for them. This is just a bit of fun, so if it ends up just being an mp3 backing track that's ok. It might be easier for Eliot to upload the backing track in mp3 format for us to play to, but he can email the .wav file directly to whoever is mixing.
That may be a better solution, Fretworn. MP3 backing track (but preferably 256k rather than 128k), but import to your DAW set to record at 44.1kHz at 104 BPM and record in 24 bit .wav format. BG will need to leave a couple of empty bars at the start, or one empty bar and the next with a four beat click intro so that you know when it's going to start (which can be missed off the final version).
Record your track and then depending on the ability of your DAW, either export the guitar track to a .wav file or mute the backing track and export the mixdown. But you should be able to just export the section with your playing on it. I'd suggest preferably a mono track, or a centrally panned stereo track (if you can't mix to mono).
You'll still need to get the .wav file to BG (or whoever) via something like Dropbox.
Fortunately, I have an account with Dropbox and it is installed on my DAW PC, so I'm pretty well sorted, I can quite easily record in 24 Bit because my Focusrite Saffire Pro 40 supports it, it actually supports up to 192khz bitrate (as if I'd ever have a need to up the bitrate to that high), and FL Studio can export .wav files, or .mp3 files at up to 320k.
I just got a notification from Image Line, the makers of the FL Studio DAW software, saying that a new version of FL Studio was available for download, I'm downloading it now so I can update my current FL Studio installation to the latest version, I like to keep my DAW PC software up to date.
There is a saxophone version of this idea conducted on 'Cafe Saxophone'
One chorus of Blues in 'F' and Pete Thomas seamlessly wove them together in sequence.
A different player on each chorus.
I made it to round 8. Getting the last chorus as 'Wilbur Weltklang'.
https://tamingthesaxophone.com/saxontheweb-blues
It was a couple of years ago, would be great to get another swing at it.
cheers, Mark.
The other option is tio make it visual as well.
Doing video might make life difficult no files too big, but if the track is displayed YouTube style, it oiled be nice to have a pic from each player. It could be of yourself, your rig, your favourite guitar, your profile pic, or a still of you doing your recording.
It could be anything that means something to you, but I think it would be a nice touch...
Yes or no?
OK, this seems to be taking a while so here is the progression in Dm ( the saddest of all keys ) that I gave to my lyrical band mates to write some words to.
I told them to push the chords around if they wished and this particular progression although the foundation for Brown Bottle is not where it finished up and it's also not the same feel.
Feel free to have a play and post your results, I'll come up with something over Easter as a break from the country based stuff I'll be doing.
The chords are ( from memory )
Dm - A# - A - A7
Dm - A# - A - A7
Dm - A# - Dm - A#
Dm - A# - G - A - A7
Dm - A# - G - E - A - A7
Repeated it runs for just over 2 minutes, have fun
https://soundcloud.com/suthol/dm-jam-track
Edited to add, this was a bit of an afterthought and it's now a bit late here in Sydney but I'll do a stronger mix tomorrow and upload as a wav for you to work with
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Originally Posted by dave.king1
Cheers for posting the chord progression, I'm going to have a go at jamming along to the track you uploaded to soundcloud so I can work out a rough Blues melody to go with it, this will actually be something new to me, but I'll give it my best shot and see what I can come up with.
Just pulled the original track down and put up a slightly stronger mix as a WAV file
https://soundcloud.com/suthol/dm-jam-track
I also put it up on TDPRI Twanger Central which is a place for your own work and there's been one taker so far
http://www.tdpri.com/threads/a-track...y-with.723046/
Even if you post it as a WAV, Soundcloud still converts it to a 128 bps MP3 for their standard playback. However, I believe that if you upload a lossless format, it can be downloaded at a higher quality. However, Dave, you don't seem to have allowed the track to be uploaded. I can't see any upload button. You might have to play with the track setting.Quote:
Originally Posted by dave.king1
I'm hearing a lot of clicks on the track. Are they on the original or is that Soundcloud's encoding adding them?
I just tried playing the track back and can hear some clicks and pops going on in the background too.
Thanks for the comments, I have just enabled downloading and when I play it from Soundcloud I don't hear any clicks maybe if you are playing it on your phone or something similar you are hearing the snare hits.
I also get it that Soundcloud and Youtube do their own thing to it when tracks are uploaded but at the price who is complaining.
https://soundcloud.com/suthol/dm-jam-track
Here is what a guy over on TDPRI played to that same track you have listened to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJE_LvT7iH4
But hes playing a strat!!!;)
I like the solo.
@ Andy40 He's not just playing any old Strat, he's playing a Gold one, the Strat you see in the youtube video is exactly what I'm aiming for with my Gold Strat build project except that I'm opting for a set of three white Kent Armstrong dual-blade pickups, and he's getting quite a nice tone too.
I know right doc ;)Quote:
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Got a love affair with strats at the moment:cool:
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I can totally understand and relate to that, to be honest, I'm over all the tuning-issues I've been getting with my LP Studio guitar and it's idiosyncrasies, I've been getting back into Strat-style guitars since early this year, it started off after I finished off the Hot Rod Strat build, there's something about the way the strings pass over the nut in a straight-line on the way to the tuners, rather than splaying-out at funny angles, it just feels better aesthetically to me.
Definitely clicks on it and not snare hits, Dave. Maybe try setting your audio buffer to a larger value?
Not gold, but I saw a copper-coloured Strat in Guitar Village just over a week ago. One of Fenders very limited edition (40 made) Robbie Robertson 'The Last Waltz' Strats, with a copper-plated body. Only £13.7k/A$21.9k. You'd have to be a big fan of The Band to buy it.
https://guitarvillage.co.uk/products...ocaster-bronze
And as it's no longer in stock, someone obviously was and did!
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Originally Posted by Simon Barden
What I'd love to know is how Fender managed to dip the guitar body in molten bronze without the body being burnt to a crisp, how hot does molten bronze get?, something like about 1800 degrees C or thereabouts....the mind boggles, and apparently it is real bronze metal too.
I'd imagine you do it very quickly! I'd have though they would have used some form of electroplating method rather than an unreliable molten dip. You can wet things and dip them in molten metal for a very short while. You can even dip a wet hand in for a second or so (I saw it proved on the TV show 'Mythbusters'). The steam produced forms a gaseous barrier that protects the surface form the heat, but then you wouldn't get any deposition.
Listened through the cans and there is a crackle in the background, so I have pushed the levels around a bit and tightened the grid up a bit as well.
This one sounds cleaner, let me know if it's not and I'll stick it through some mastering software. ( Never meant to be a production track, just a bit of fun )
https://soundcloud.com/suthol/dm-jam-backing-track