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Actually Jarrod/DB some PRS Guitars are made by World Guitars Korea. As are some of Perrys,Rob Chapmans,Fenders,Gibsons,Esp,Music Man, Vigier and Kramer. World guitars are known for making the better quality ones,it's a family business and staff are well looked after. But yep strange how companies can put made in the USA on a product.
Check the video out http://youtu.be/OZhAzVo6mX8
Part Two
http://youtu.be/fctC_jrHK8s
Thanks for clearing that up Kimball and DrNo :)
So we can assume that custom shop F's are Korean, put together in the USA then.......
Woks....who you supporting in the final of the RWC...?
makes you fell better about Chinese kit guitars hand fitted and finished by the budding builders/luthiers on this site.
not much different to what the big names do and often better results
Interesting Kimball . So the doco I watched seemed to have left that bit of info out. Jeeeezzzz can anyone be trusted to provide what it say's on the tin.Quote:
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No.
Yhep I do like the instruments that World guitars have made, I'd buy most of the guitars from that factory if I could!
IMO MiM Squiers are really nice instruments too, I'm considering getting a MiM J bass one day after playing one, with a couple simple, little, inexpensive upgrades you really can end up with a very nice instrument, even with a somewhat thick finish (it was thinner than I thought it was). I agree with DB and Jrod, the so called USA made guitars are just horrid for what you pay for. A legitimate USA made instrument on the other hand like a Ric or a PRS are so worth getting!
So why aren't we charging $5 to $10k for our hand-finished, Made-in-Australia-from-local-and-imported-parts, customised guitars?Quote:
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:)
chuck a zillion dollars at marketing and perhaps we could....Quote:
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they rest their laurels on past heritage too
I guess the dollar sign takes over and like everything else it gets made as cheap as possible and sold for as much as possible. Western world labour is very expensive . But this would make the consumer price tag cheaper being made in a sweat shop one would have thought. After what I have seen Nebulars have gone up to $30,000 lol...who wants one :)
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That's what bugs me the most about our Free Enterprise system, companys try to reduce manufacturing costs in order to increase their profit-margin, unfortunately reducing manufacturing costs isn't without it's detriments, the cheaper you make something to build the less reliable it is, or the quality reduces, there is always some kind of tradeoff, it's funny how some old things keep on working when some new things break down within days of being bought.
And then you see piles of those broken new thing ending up as landfill.
And not to mention deliberate obsolescence being a part of modern manufacturing......Quote:
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haha DB a constant cause of friction at my place:
"what are you modifying that for ?"
"because if they made it right, I wouldnt have to..."
Hi everyone,
Well...I guess I should apologize for having any doubts about my SG guitar being a fake Gibson, a few minutes ago just out of curiosity I undid all the scratchplate screws and lifted it up enough so that I could see the underside of the pickups, lo and behold what did I see.......the word "Epiphone" written on the underside of the pickups..... I think we have our ""Smoking Gun" here, so, you guys are right, what I have here is definitely a fake Gibson USA Angus Young SG which, I'm guessing, was most likely manufactured at the Epiphone factory in China.
Since I don't really like the tone of the pickups (they're a bit too bassy compared to the ones on my Les Paul), I'm seriously considering changing them out for a couple of Entwistles.
I hate to say this, but they're not even legit epiphone pickups, those things come in most of the counterfeit guitars that come from the chinese fake factories. The epiphone factory had nothing to do with it, they can at least make a convincing copy.
Oh well, its a modding platform now. I hope you can get the dead frets sorted.
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I think the main thing is we know that it isn't a legit Gibson, and yes, I was going to use it as a mods platform anyway, I'm mostly going to be replacing all that needs replacing, the bridge, tuners, and nut (will be buying a couple of permanently lubricated Graphtech Tusq nuts from Stewmac), might also buy whatever tools I need to do the fret-levelling work on it, always wanted to get into a bit of diy guitar repairing anyway.
I definitely like the idea of replacing the stock pickups with a couple of those Entwistles, might be the start of an interesting forum thread.
Epiphone once made great guitars themselves. But alas pab's is correct. The Chinese have no copy write laws what so ever. Lets start making expensive high quality copies of Chinese guitars lol.....
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Originally Posted by jarrod
Actually, the Chinese Government were supposed to be cracking down on illegal guitar counterfeiting after being pressured by Gibson,Fender, and all the other major guitar manufacturers, there's supposed to be some kind of coalition monitoring what the Chinese Government are doing to address the issue.
I dont think you owe any apologies at all, Doc.
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Cheers mate.
Yeah DBs right I think we are all just genuinely concerned that we don't like to see this happen to anyone. The trouble is once a guitar like this gets in the system. It's passed on through a variety of hands. In the end the owner wouldn't have a clue that it wasn't legit,until he tried to sell it as such. If I can help in anyway with repairs or advise please just ask.
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No worries and cheers for that mate.
Okay so to reiterate, here's my plan for getting my Chibson Angus SG modded up so he/she/it, or whatever, will play alot better than it currently does:
1, Rip out the stock nut which causes the high E-String to buzz like a sitar when tuned to pitch, and replace it with a white Graphtech Tusq XL nut.
2, Replace the stock bridge with a new Nashville Tune O Matic bridge (the original bridge also causes the high E-String to buzz like a sitar).
3, Replace the stock tuners with a set of better quality replacements, each of the original tuners exhibited 1/4 turn of backlash rendering it very difficult to accurately tune each string to pitch.
4, Level the frets near the body end of the neck to get rid of serious fretbuzz/choke on the high E-string.
And finally....
5, Replace each pickup with new Entwistle HV58 pickups.
sounds like a solid plan Doc, look forward to seeing the build diary. Maybe you can record how it sounds now and compare it to what it will sound after the upgrades
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Actually, that's a pretty cool idea now that you mention it, and since I happen to have all I need to do good recordings, I'll do that, will also do the diary as well since I just found my Digital Camera, so I'll include pics with it too.
sounds good Doc, then you will have a gauge to how much the sound has improved.
Might pay to take photos of the amp settings so you can replicate the sound after the upgrades have taken place
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Originally Posted by wokkaboy
Since I don't have any of my guitar amps at home I'll be using an amp simulator that's on my Desktop PC to do the recordings, that'll keep things consistent with regards to settings since I can just do a "save as", I'll be using a plugin called Positive Grid Bias.
sounds good Doc
Sounds great DrNomis. Download the latest Bias software not sure if you know but it now includes variety of cabs too. Look forward to hearing and seeing the difference's
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Originally Posted by kimball492
For sure, I'll be interested in hearing the differences, if any, for myself.
I just checked out some demo videos of the Entwistle HV50 Pickups on youtube, to my ears they sound alot like the pickups in my USA Gibson Les Paul Studio guitar, so that's a good sign.
What forum section would be the most appropriate section for me to start the mod diary in?, I can't start it in the kit building section cause it's not exactly a kit and it isn't a Pitbull Guitar's instrument.
Hey Doc, like your plans for the SG :)
Please feel free to start a diary in Non Pitbull Gear section
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Originally Posted by dingobass
Cheers, will do mate.
sad news about the guitar, but sounds like you are making the best of it and it will still be a cool instrument when completed. as long as it is playable and sounds good, it will still be ok, just not a gibbo...
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Originally Posted by stan
I look at it philosophically, since I do happen to have a genuine USA Gibson guitar it really doesn't bother me that this SG is a Chibson, as you said, I'm going to make the best of it, or, turn a negative into a positive, I'm sure lots of us have done that at some stage, I think that's what makes this whole guitar building thing alot of fun.