Luckily it's only a tiny little bit right on the outside edge on the binding so I was thinking fill and then a black burst round the edge.Quote:
Originally Posted by wokkaboy
I'm just not sure of the best way to fill it/stick it down.
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Luckily it's only a tiny little bit right on the outside edge on the binding so I was thinking fill and then a black burst round the edge.Quote:
Originally Posted by wokkaboy
I'm just not sure of the best way to fill it/stick it down.
I was just thinking Wokka, we should have been dribbling all this crap on my build diary page, we might have crack 25 pages or more by now:-)
no worries Barge will wait for photos on your build diary. Sounds like a good solution fill and dark stain on the edge.
Racking up the posts nicely cheers bro. Have a look at the 'what's new' history the Barge and Woks show has been going off hahah
We "owned" that What's New tab!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by wokkaboy
haha nice screen dump Barge,
no worries we will continue the Barge and Woks show on your build diary - you will beat Pest's 25 odd page thread piece of cake
Sorry to hi-jack your Thread guys, but I just wanted to thank Barge. Mate, that track is AWESOME. I have been trying out Reaper and to say that my efforts are amateurish at best is an understatement.Quote:
Originally Posted by bargeloobs
To know what can be accomplished in a home studio with free gear is definitely encouraging. Whether I can ever get near to your results remains to be seen, but I will persevere a bit longer.
OK you two, normal tramission can now resume. ;)
rob
Hey cheers Robin I really appreciate the comments and DO stick at it, your perseverance will be rewarded in the end (hey if I can do it anyone can). I haven't had any experience with Reaper but if you need any general mixing help I'm more than willing to share my limited knowledge.Quote:
Originally Posted by robin
I must say, I'm pretty lucky having a world class vocalist in Nashville based Jones Nelson to collab with too, he really turns 'just another rock track' into a fully rounded song, and best of all he's signed on for the whole record so hopefully there's 11 more cool tracks to come.
He's literally just launched his new website and Facebook page if you wanna check him out.
http://www.jonesnelson.com/
https://www.facebook.com/jonesnelsonmusic
wow Barge I just listened to your track that sounds choice. So did you play the guitar tracks and bass and tweak/mix all the sounds ? Is the drum track from a drum machine ?
quality production bro !
Hey cheers Wokks.
Yeah did everything on that one from the ground up.
The drums aren't a 'drum machine' as such, but are created from real life drum kit samples that are strung together to make patterns and ultimately an entire song.
The pic below of the step sequencer shows a typical drum pattern which is just triggered by those little buttons that are highlighted.
I typically work with patterns that are 2 bars in length or 8 beats (like the one shown), and you can get down to 16th notes using this method, beyond that it gets a bit trickier but is necessary for flams, fills and double kicks etc.
So you just build up lots and lots of these patterns to make a whole song.
The other pic shows all the different drums in the mixer e.g hats, snares, kick bla bla bla so you get total audio control over every aspect of the instruments within the drum kit.
NOTE: you can see I've got the kick highlighted and the list of plugins I've used for that particular instrument (comp, Ozone, Eq, Bittersweet)
The other pic just shows all the elements which made up the song e.g drums along the top, 3 lots of distorted guitars and the bass, so music wise it's fairly basic.
https://soundcloud.com/sodacupkiller...linded/s-NPTWb
This audio sample is a snippet of 'Blinded' drums after it's had effects added to all instruments then bounced down to a single stereo track, moved to a new project and from there I start 'stem mixing' which is basically mixing groups of instruments rather than individual ones.
I create stems of the guitars as well as any other instruments that make up the song. I keep the bass guitar separate rather than bouncing into a stem because it occupies so much bandwidth within the mix and you need total control over it so it doesn't drown other instruments.
After I've mixed all the stems I add the vocals and start treating them and working them into the music.
Confused yet...yeah me too:-)
Barge mate, that track is STUNNING! Top job there!
I've been mucking around with my copy of Music Creator 6 (about the same price as Reaper), so far I quite like it, now if I can get the rest of the studio up and running, then I could start dreaming of awesome tracks like that, my current attempts at my perfect mix have failed badly.... Whelp, back to the studio i go!
Cheers pest, hey you'll have to put up some of your stuff mate, I'd be real interested to see what you've been doing.Quote:
Originally Posted by keloooe
This is a continuation of the stem mix I was talking about earlier to hopefully demonstrate visually what's going on.
The screenshot is of the 'Blinded' stem mix (chorus), as you can see there's actually more going on here (track-wise) than the initial mix.
A breakdown of the tracks are as follows
Track 1 - A duplicate of the original Stereo drum mix, used as an ambient track (to emulate room mics) set pretty low in the mix with a thick room reverb and a few other goodies
Track 2 - Stereo drum mix
Track 3 - Kick drum duplicate for added punch and presence on the kick
Track 4 - Snare drum duplicate for added punch and presence on the snare
Track 5 - Toms duplicate for added punch and presence on the toms
Track 6 - Distorted Guitars
Track 7 - Bass Guitar
Track 8 - automation clip (flanger)
Track 9 - automation clip (filter)
Track 10 - Lead Vox
Track 11 - automation clip for lead vox volume envelope
Track 12,13,14 - Background vox
Track 15 - automation clip for lead vox stereo shaping
Track 16 - automation clip for background vox volume envelope
Once I'm happy with how things are sounding on this mix it gets bounced down to a single stereo track once again ready for final master.
Important point here is that the max peak on the output gain doesn't exceed more than -3db but preferably -6db so as to leave plenty of headroom for mastering.
So with stem mixing you treat all the guitars in the mix as one guitar and use that to mix with?
You got it it man, all the panning, reverbs and everything you use to flavour the guitars was done back at the initial mix when we had individual control over everything.Quote:
Originally Posted by keloooe
With the stem mix I'm affecting all the guitars at once. The aim is not to alter the sound too much, after all you've got the sound you want at mixdown, the aim with the stems is just to clean the sound up and enhance it.
You can see in the pic the plugins I've used on the guitars (I named it 'Drumless mix') in the stem mix.
Ozone - was used purely for it's mid/side eq's to clean up any unwanted mid/side information (definitely my favorite plugin by far)
Bittersweet - was used to take out any rogue transients in the guitar mix
Ignore the 'Filter' and the 'Flanger', they were just automated to come in for a short section leading into the 2nd verse
Ferox - was used to give a subtle tape saturation to the guitar sound
Just checked out the free VST plugins, I reckon I'll permanently use Ferox, I always love that vintage echo and colour that tapes provide.
Oh and there wont be anything from me yet, once I get the interface I want I'll start punching out my mixes!
You're using windows then?Quote:
Originally Posted by keloooe
Definitely Windows Bargey, too poor for a $200 interface let alone a Mac :D
Also Music Creator allows you to upload to SoundCloud within the program, which I'll find handy indeed.
Nothing wrong with working in Windows man, it gets the job done. Depending on how many tracks you're recording a basic two channel interfaces is surprisingly cheap, obviously if you're tracking a drum kit you're gonna need a few more ins, but for just recording one or two tracks at a time there's heaps of options out there at very reasonable prices.Quote:
Originally Posted by keloooe
This is what I'm running, I love it!! http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/M-Audio-M...item339c2774ab
Yeah cheers for the link Bargey, I'm only doing it one track at a time, just makes it easier to control the noise levels (from other instruments / ambiance) in each track.Quote:
Originally Posted by bargeloobs
Hey Bargey, another site I just found (not sure if it has already been mentioned), it doesn't have a squillion VSTs but they appear to be quality and well sorted into categories AND free.
http://bedroomproducersblog.com/free-vst-plugins/
And you will be proud to know that because of you and Kimball I have started listening to the production behind the music. I haven't done that for many years. Well there goes whatever free time I had ;)
Cheers guys.
Legend, I was literally just scanning the interwebs trying to find a good HF exciter, I might go see if there's anything on that site, good job;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by robin
I don't even know what an exciter does (although my imagination is currently running wild), a few here:
http://www.best-free-vst.com/plugins...nhancer-01.php
I needed to boost the high end harmonic frequencies of a bass guitar to get it to cut in the mix and didn't have a decent exciter.Quote:
Originally Posted by robin
Found this and it works like a treat, definitely a keeper:-) (ThrillseekerXTC)
https://varietyofsound.wordpress.com/downloads/
There really are some really nice VST plugins that are free if you do some hunting, I'm already digging the stuff I have right now from the test recording I made with a crappy Guitar Hero mic!
http://logic-pro-expert.com Item at top is free percussion plugin Percussa a Toolbox
http://logic-pro-expert.com/logic-pr...o-free-plugins Free plugins
If you also go here http://logic-pro-expert.com. Click categories at the top there's a list of free stuff i:e plugins tutorials books etc
Have fun
Heres some great plugins guys free too . I use them so much http://www.bluecataudio.com/Products..._FreewarePack/
Heres some fantastic Lexicon reverb Impulse Resonses ( lexicon was the most sought after reverb in any studio ) It applies magic dust on any track so they say lol
http://www.housecallfm.com/download-...l-lexicon-480l
heres some reverbs that you can use with Space Designer in Logic or Anything that handles impulse responses
Inside you will find the following presets (exactly as they are in the machine no editing) :
For Logic Pro 9 users:
1) Put Big Gees Lexicon 480L folder in :
~ / Library / Application Support / Logic / Impulse Responses
If you dont yet have the Impulse Responses folder, create it (h/t Alex)
2) Put BG Lexicon 480L folder in :
~ / Library / Application Support / Logic / Plug-In Settings / Space Designer
Logic Pro X users (based on Eli Krantzbergs suggestions, see the comment section below):
1) Put Big Gees Lexicon 480L folder in :
~ / Music / Audio Music Apps / Impulse Responses
If you dont yet have the Impulse Responses folder, create it.
2) Put BG Lexicon 480L folder in :
~ / Music / Audio Music Apps / Plug-In Settings / Space Designer
Here List Of Presets Contained
Ambience Gated Ambience
Ambience Large Ambience
Ambience Medium Ambience
Ambience Small Ambience
Ambience Strong Ambience
Ambience Very Large Ambience
Effects BackSlap
Effects Doubler
Effects Get It Wet
Effects In The Past
Effects Rebound
Effects Sudden Stop
Effects Surfin
Effects Tremelo L to R
Effects Vox Whispers
Halls Auto Park
Halls Jazz Hall
Halls Large Church
Halls Large Hall
Halls Large Plate
Halls Large+Stage
Halls Medium Hall
Halls Medium+Stage
Halls Small Church
Halls Small Hall
Halls Small+Stage
Plates A Plate
Plates Fat Plate
Plates Small Plate
Plates Snare Plate
Plates Thin Plate
Rich Plates Drum Plate
Rich Plates Echo Plate
Rich Plates Guitar Plate
Rich Plates Horn Plate
Rich Plates Large Plate
Rich Plates Short Plate
Rich Plates Silver Plate
Rich Plates Slap Plate
Rich Plates Vocal Plate
Rich Plates Vox Plate No.2
Rooms Large Room
Rooms Music Club
Rooms Small & Bright
Wild Spaces 1ow-40
Wild Spaces 2ow-50
Wild Spaces Big Bottom
Wild Spaces Brick Wall
Wild Spaces Buck Ram
Wild Spaces Inside Out
Wild Spaces Metallica
Wild Spaces Ricochet
Wild Spaces Sillica Beads
Wild Spaces Varoom
Use them wisely and your productions will start to sound a lot more expensive ;)
These are a different Reverb Units IR files put in same locations as the above
Briscati M7 Impulse responses to use with Logics Space Designer
http://www.samplicity.com/bricasti-m...onses/Bricasti M7 Impulse Responses Download
The acousticas.net version, which is still served here even though the company ceased to exist a couple of months back. Installation instructions are included. The samplicity.com version, which is here, is supposed to be closer to the real thing.
These downloads include the impulses only, without the Space Designer presets, so youll have to manually load the impulses, which quickly becomes kind of a drag. You could load them one by one while saving them as a preset but theres an app for that! Check out Space Designer Manager in the App Store (29 Euros) or on their website. I just bought it, it works like a charm.
Hi Guys , here a free Stereo Expander Plugin in AU , VST, AAX,RTAS FORMATS
http://a1audio.de/index.php/downloads
haha already got that one and it's awesome, I've used it on my last 2 tracks now and it's perfect for really stretching the mix out nice and wide. It's got a "safe bass" feature which is cool too, as stereo imaging can sometimes cause unwanted anomalies in the bottom end.Quote:
Originally Posted by kimball492
Here's some great free plugins one allows you to check your mix in mono Panipulator does just that . Barge have you tried doing your mix in mono ref levels makes a big difference to final mix give it a go . Bark of the dog is a shot at UADs Voice Of God a really expensive program that just increases the bass without the extra stuff http://www.bozdigitallabs.com just add to cart you'll see the invoice reads $0.00 no credit card payment needed
Best Advice I can give you Guys .is look for these as plugins A compressor or two , An Eq or two , a reverb , a delay . Most DAWS software comes with these .And some are better than the commercially expensive ones learn them one at a time know how to use them . Always listen to the tracks your working on through an MP3 player /iPhone ipod headphones .listen to how it sounds on your home stereo if it sounds great that's good but if it's too bassy or trebly .write some notes down ,then go back and make those changes to your mix in the daw software .
If anyone's after a free tape delay VST plugin, try googling Watkat VST, I'm using it in FL Studio and it works great, also, if you're after a free Stereo Enhancer VST plugin then google Upstereo VST.
I Realise this isn't a free plugin but they have an offer on it currently $29.00 instead of $200.00 it's a plug in by Waves a company who makes plugins for working studios.http://www.waves.com/plugins/kramer-...-1DaySale-Post. It's called Kramer Pie here's info .
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WAVES OFFER 1 DAY SPECIAL ON KRAMER PIE COMPRESSOR FOR JUST $29
For the next 24 hours you can go over to Waves and get their Kramer PIE Compressor for just $29 instead of the normal price of $200.
What Waves Say About The Kramer PIE Compressor
Developed in association with legendary producer/engineer Eddie Kramer, the PIE Compressor was precision-modeled on a vintage Pye compressor like the ones he used in historic sessions at Londons acclaimed Olympic Studios. A mainstay in esteemed British studios throughout the classic rock era, the original Pye processors are considered by many to be among of the best buss compressors of all time. The Waves PIE plugin features a meticulously modeled VU meter with superfast refresh rates that recreates the accuracy, sensitivity, and ballistic behavior of a physical analog meter.
Modeled compressor plugin
Based on a rare 60s vintage Pye compressor
Compression and limiting modes
Auto-makeup gain
Developed in association with legendary producer / engineer Eddie Kramer
As used in Londons famed Olympic Studios
If this interests you, check out the review here http://youtu.be/RItUkq0E4jg
Yep I've got Panipulator, it's a really handy little utility. That "Bark of Dog" has me intrigued though, I'm grabbing a copy as we speak. Cheers Kimball:-)Quote:
Originally Posted by kimball492
I gave the "Bark of Dog" vst plugin a trial run today and was highly impressed. Here's a little sound clip of the results I achieved. First clip without, second clip with.
It adds nice depth to the bottom end without getting boomy and over saturated, especially noticeable on the the kick drum.
Pic shows settings I used.
https://soundcloud.com/sodacupkiller...sample/s-qMxKY
Seemed to add depth to the vocal a bit too ( could just be me heaing things)
Love that guitar tone.
Nah I think you're right, it's just picking up a smidge of the vocal before the high pass filter comes in.Quote:
Originally Posted by vh2580
That's that SD Invader in the Bladecatcher for ya, jeez I love that pickup, it's just so detailed, especially with a nice distortion.
Yeah Bark of the dog is a handy free plugin great on bass drums vocals guitars toms and bass guitar it has uses too
Here's another Free plugin
https://goodhertz.co/faraday-lim
Free Plugins from Native Instruments
http://www.native-instruments.com/en/products/free/
There another plugin they've just released called Polyplex it isn't a free plugin but great idea http://www.native-instruments.com/en...rce=newsletter
Waves weekend deals http://www.waves.com/?utm_source=wnl...=weekend-deals