first time I've read this thread, the repair coming along nicely Stan.
Might be worth trying a small amount of clear coat first Stan to see if there is any reaction with the current clear
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first time I've read this thread, the repair coming along nicely Stan.
Might be worth trying a small amount of clear coat first Stan to see if there is any reaction with the current clear
Thanks Wokka, I was planning to do exactly that, somewhere near the repair.
That way, if there are any surprises I'll just sand it off.
gap filling and sanding, dont we love it?
oops, damn plastic nut came off when I hit it with a hammer, shame that:
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...20LP/004-1.jpg
Undercoat time:
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...20LP/006-1.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...20LP/005-2.jpg
Yes, I am going to remove the tuners and do it properly...
On with the black and wipe on poly.
The poly seems to go on fine and no reactions so far...(24hrs later)
The black however doesn't quite match and seems a bit grey compared to the Epi black. It bugs me enough to redo the colour, no biggie.
Clear not fully on , but gives an idea of with and without. I actually have clear on the whole rear of the headstock, and I can still see the colour difference
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...e%20LP/018.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...e%20LP/016.jpg
instead of using paint of the same brand and doing it the easy way, I tried another gloss black which was a water based enamel: big mistake and paint reactions.
So sand back, and new primer:
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...20LP/001-3.jpg
Gloss black, same as the original paint I used (the gloss version seems to give a truer black than the satin - even rubbed back. I didnt think there would be a difference, but there is..)
Light mist coat initially, don't want another reaction...
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...20LP/003-4.jpg
Area of repair is getting bigger all the time. Live and learn, haha
Bugger about that colour variation. Unbelievable cover up job though man, it looks pro as Stan!
I should take a snap of a repair job I did on my old acoustic a couple of years back, shocking.
Thanks Bargey, it was hardly any variation, just enough for me to notice.
Nobody else probably would have, and I've added some hours work, but you guys understand....
Yeah I'm hearin' that Stan, that's why the quality of the builds on here is so high I think, too much OCD:-)Quote:
Originally Posted by stan
Come ON stan get a bit of sweat into it and no one will notice. If you plan to keep this you can live with it. If you play it for a while no one else will know.
PK
It's just as easy to make it right than it is to make it wrong. Perfection is the key even if it takes that little bit longer. Your right stan I cant live with things that are only nearly right.
PK - you are so right, I know, I even hid the join lines where tuners would be etc to minimise the visibility. On the back I could have lived with it, but on the headstock I couldn't, so it was just as easy to do the lot and get it all right.
At least if I do it right and it goes well, I can offer a service that includes these types of repairs and have a good example of it. Anyone paying for a repair will usually be ruthless with quality
And if I don't, I'll still have a nice axe
I hear you Jarrod and Bargy, OCD costs us all, haha
Well, turns out the new paint is very similar to the first effort. Not painting this a third time, it really is good enough, and other projects to get on with. Especially my sister's LP.
Get some gloss on it then it becomes a fun axe and a good base for modding. I have some zebra PRS SE pups at about 10k ohms that would look awesome in this...
Getting the minwax wipe on poly on this, some pics soon , photobucket appears to be down...
Pics!
Getting close now.
Minwax is pretty good, but there is too much dust in my shed, so I will have to make a booth of some sort.
Repair nearly complete:
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...e%20LP/011.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...20LP/002-3.jpg
nice one Stan looking very shiny. So is this the build with the broken headstock ? come up a treat, looks like new !
Yes Wokka, busted headstock.
Thanks mate, the poly is still wet in these pics, but, it's looking OK.
nice, so roughly how many coats of wipe on poly to get to this level ?
It has blended in nicely to the existing clear
Thanks.
Didnt count to be honest - several is my best guess... about 10 or so
The entire neck was rubbed back with 1500 and I poly wiped the lot. No reactions and didnt have a join or actual blending to worry about
nice one Stan, so the logo did you have to put new logos on ?
Looks like the Epiphone is an inlay
Epiphone is an inlay, and yes, the logos are the originals.
I rubbed back the whole headstock with 1500 and I taped over the logos leaving a bit of a gap under neath, towards the truss rod cover and painted up to my tape point.
Where the two blacks met I tried to keep it as thin as I could , so that there would be no ridge, and sanded with 2000 to blend.
The blend line is through the two tuner holes closest to the nut. That way, if it is visible (and it is a bit at the correct angle in the right light), then the tuners and truss rod cover should cover most of it.
Most of the clear on the face of the headstock is the original, and gentle rubbing back hasn't completely gone through or affected anything underneath.
When I do the front, I'll just poly wipe the lot, like the reverse and neck, and it should all look like one (I hope...)
nice one Stan, should come up a treat after the last clear coat, glad it worked out
Cheers Wokka, it's pretty much done, just tidying up and getting the front right - not quite as slick as the pics look
sure it looks great in the flesh Stan, put it this way no one will ever know the headstock was broken off the neck !
Looking great Stan! Such an amazing fix dude.
cheers,
Gav.
Thanks Gav, perhaps I can get a kit finished, haha
Will take more pics when it's all done
looking good there Stan, good that you could keep the original logos on too.
She's turned out really well Stan, I'd be changing that "distinct lack of skill" thing in your sig if I were you.
Great repair job Stan.
I was talking to Bill at Underground in Werribee, and he gave me a little secret for filling holes and stuff. Yeah I know it's a bit late for you, but what he does is apply some superglue and baking powder it sets like concrete, but can be sanded down and painted.
Cheers PK
@ Bargey, haha thanks, it's turning out pretty well. Some minor blemishes and dust to deal with, but very close now
@Jarrod, thanks mate, They weren't too hard to work around. The original clear is pretty thick and they are well protected, and the break didn't interfere with their position
@PK cheers mate, I have heard of that method, but of course didn't think of it at the time,I tried epoxy which didn't work as well (especially trying to add ink to it, that screwed it) and then finished minor dents with Timbermate. You have, however, reminded me of another job where this will be ideal, hiding the plugs in the headstock of my sister's LP
Hi Stan.
All good work.
The epi DR200 I bought has a busted spa under the bridge, so I have spent all day looking at Youtube on how to glue it all back together. I need to get a whole pile of bits and pieces together just to apply some glue. I have to make some 'Brace Jacks' need a light a mirror, a pallet knife(bent scraper). I've also bought a hundred pipettes off ebay, cost $3.40.
Cheers PK
sounds tricky PK.
You could simply measure the inside depth of the guitar and wedge it with a calibrated stick or block!
I have an inspection mirror I got from the auto section of the Green Shed that remains nameless, works a treat and telescopic handle.
Well after a cut and polish , I think we are done here.
Time for the hardware, a decent nut and to string her up...
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...20LP/007-2.jpg
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...e%20LP/008.jpg
Great work Stan! No fix to be seen at all.
cheers,
Gav.
Great repair Stan, very interesting to watch the progression, definitely something I would never attempted until seeing this.
Good as new! Great repair job
Thanks Gav and Andrew!
Tony, It's all stuff I learned here, and youtube, but don't tell anyone
nice fix Stan, it does look good as new, be good to see her buttoned and strung up !
Excellent repair Stan, job well done.
Thanks Wokka and Bargey, should have this done in a couple of days
To late Stan we now know
We are here to share Jarrod... lol