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I wonder if this is what they call a ‘mid life crisis,’ lol! I think the next thing on the list is the Two Notes C.A.B. M. That combo would be quite a bit more than I thought I would spend, but the CAB M not only has the cabinet simulation, it also has independent reverb, equalization (equalisation down under??), dedicated headphone out, etc.
The whole rig would be tiny and light, and play nicely with my headphones, headphone amp, and powered studio monitors.
I thought it was called GAS [emoji4]Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Garfield
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Whew, thanks Doc! I’m glad it’s nothing serious!
Oh, it can get pretty serious. And there is no known cure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Garfield
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(I know, I’m not that kind of artist!)
That would be cheaper than severe GAS. Original Klon and a Dumble amp anyone?Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Garfield
Reading through this thread was bringing on a case of GAS.
I spend most of my guitar playing through headphones as I have partner that's allergic to the sound of
somebody trying to improve their lot.
After marching through several youtube reviews I was concerned that the sound I want required the spending of hard-earned cash.
Today I decided to dial in the best sound possible on my el-cheapo NU-X PG-2.
I then set my Vox Pathfinder 10 dials to half way ...except the volume (I'm not suicidal).
Voila!! my GAS is cured!
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cheers, Mark
While we’re confessing... :)
I basically haven’t touched a guitar in years, don’t even own any, but I have 3 kits + accessories on the way, am building workshop and jigs, buying tools, and now buying pedals, lol. But that said, I’m a craftsman at heart, traded my old guitars for a piano, and have been studying theory. So it’s not random, just sudden.
My first guitar was a compromise, and pretty much every purchase for the next 15 years was a compromise. I eventually got tired of the compromises so I took a break. I wasn’t going to get back in until I could justify a PRS Hollowbody (hence the theory), but being a craftsman, once I found the similar PitBull kit I’m all in.
Hi, I’m Joe, and I’m a gear-o-holiic.
Nothing wrong with that. I once realised that I don't have new hobbies, just old ones that have rotated back into active duty.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Garfield
Thanks, It helps!
These past couple years I’ve started to realize the same thing. I’ll never give up my tools, some form of music equipment, my golf clubs, and my dive gear. Tools since I could hold a flashlight, and music and golf since high school. Diving since I moved to where it’s warm :)
I built electronic kits in my early teens, played guitar in my later teens, then got distracted and did drawing for a while, got distracted and learnt juggling (I can still do a solid 4 balls and shaky 5), got distracted by guitar again (getting my first electric), recently started building pedals again...
It just goes around and around.
Dick Smith electronic kits by chance?
You bet!Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy40
They were awesome
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Snap! they were the best.
Well I’ve learned at least a little something since I started this thread :) Particularly, ‘cabinet simulation’ and ‘power amp simulation’ are two different things and can be a significant part of the experience. Most of the demos I’ve watched had a tube power amp plugged into either an active tube power amp, or a modeled amp with an emulated cabinet.
Then there are different types of emulators: passive analog, active analog, and digital. On top of that, there are room effects (ie, reverb.)
On one hand, I could consider the Two Notes CAB M which is basically amp modeling software in a pedal box. It converts signal to digital and can apply everything from custom cabinet impulse responses, EQ, mic positions, room dynamics, etc to the signal, then convert back to analog. There will be a small amount of latency and I’d really prefer not to have that much processing in my guitar signal. But it’s a really complete solution, albeit not cheap at $320 usd.
On a second hand, there are active analog cabinet emulators, like Suhr A.C.E. This is another pedal sized device that applies filters and EQ to the sound. It’s obviously much more limited than the above product and still has no room effects. Still close to a $300 usd solution that may not have enough reverb. There are cheaper ones but they’re usually less convincing.
On one foot, I was considering an inexpensive IR loader just to try (NuX Mini Studio.) For $100 it seems like an inexpensive way to try custom IRs (can buy additional IRs from Celestion which have mic positions and therefore maybe some room effect.) There’s no amplifier modeling, the pedal doesn’t come with power cord, and may not cover enough reverb so when you add these products on it’s really a $200+ solution. But since the modeling is limited to IR only, the latency is a little lower at least. Also I don’t want to go down a rabbit hole of buying cheap equipment only to realize I wish I had better equipment. It’s hard to say if that would be the case or not.
Living on the most remote set of populated islands in the world, and in a time of a global pandemic, doesn’t help the process! It’s not like I can walk into a store and try out a few things. The stores aren’t open and most of them don’t have what I’m looking for.
I feel your pain. It can be very hard to cut through all the options when you can't try before you buy. No amount of reading reviews and specs, or YouTube videos takes the place of hearing yourself play through something with your own guitar.
Yes, you are right that a lot of different elements are needed to get the sound right. Even my clean sound has a lot of processing (buffer, light gain, light post-gain compression, reverb, amp, cab sim). That's one thing I like about lunchbox amps like my THR10C. It has all the basic elements built in - 8 amp sims, 5 cabinet speaker sims, reverb, plus the option of delay, phaser, flanger, chorus, compressor, noise gate. And I can mix and match. I tend to use the Blues Jr amp sim with the Bluesbreaker 2x12 cab sim. It makes it richer to my ears than the Fender 1x12 cab options.
Are there any online vendors with a good return policy? That might give you the safety net you need.
Hmm... ‘modeling amp’ = digital.
Coming from a guy with exquisite taste in amplifiers and a preference for analog pedal circuitry, I think you just sold me on the Two Notes CAB M. =)
I saw a video of Pete Thorn using IR software. There was a tone where he moved the mic away from the speaker and you (I) could “hear the room” - it honestly felt like I was in a room with an amplifier being played.
Considering what I’m after, maybe it’s silly to try to avoid some kind of digital modeling.
I guess another option is a free trial of Wall of Sound - I don’t want to use my PC when playing, but maybe a trial isn’t a bad way to see if I like using modeled tones.
I am happy to keep suggesting things that push you in the other direction :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Garfield
But really, I think the only way to cut through all the options is to let your ears be the judge. Even Youtube videos are very limiting. It's not your gear, your guitar, your room, and you have no control over all the other things they do to the sound. My favourite example is this review of the Guv'nor pedal. Sure, it's a great pedal but it's demoed through a wall of cranked Marshalls (note the ear protection)!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EK2RkzF67XU
Also, I agree with the analog over digital. My current pedal building efforts are part of my plan to slowly replace digital effects with analog ones. Later this year I plan to build a tube amp, although I will likely keep the THR as well.
Yeah that’s what I realized - I went back and looked at the demos that influenced my decisions, and realized there was more going on than I realized at first.
I think Two Notes CAB M is a pretty safe bet. If i don’t like the amp modeling I can turn it off. If I don’t like the IR I can make my own or buy from Celestion. Or at the very least I can just use EQ, reverb, etc.
It seems like every guitar purchase I made since I started at 16 was some kind of sacrifice. So while expensive, it also feels good to get some premium gear. And I guess it’s gear that should hold it’s value reasonably well if it doesn’t work out. I had credit from a return at Amazon a few months ago so I just applied it to the CAB M :)
Get in contact with me if/when you need IRsQuote:
Originally Posted by Joe Garfield
Will do, thank you!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bakersdozen
Don't waste your time on a Blackstar ht5r I picked up ht5hr with the 2x112 cabs it was rubbish and way overpriced, I got rid of it and replaced it with a Marshall DSL20H and a Marshall 212 cab with a NUX MS-20 and I love the thing, I play it every day on the 10watt setting perfect for not upsetting folks, the boss katana 50 is a great bit of kit, another different option is a line 6 amplifi TT it's a really good thing for using headset heaps of amp models and cabs and effects can go on an amp to computer to headset also has Bluetooth, the boss GT-001 is also a great bit of kit but $400+ their desktop units but for what you want to do without an amp the line 6 amplifi TT would be perfect for you and under $300Quote:
Originally Posted by Simon Barden
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMw7...nel=Sweetwater
Agreed with phrozin about Blackstar ht5r. This one is really overpriced.
With choosing my headphones I met the next problem, nowadays it is hard to find really good headphones with affordable prices, most of the models are overpriced due to brand, but their quality is too low compared with their price. My friend suggested me to go to the audio-direct.com website for recommendations and information about good and NOT overpriced headphones. So with their help, I'm using now Skullcandy S6SCDZ-003 what have amazing quality and very affordable price. I'd recommend following my steps to find good headphones.
Blackstar seems to have a good following but not quite the sound I’m after.
Just so happens, I remember building some Dick Smith kits when I was in my early teens, one of the very first Dick Smith kits I built was the Funway Into Electronics FM Mic kit from book 2 of the Funway Into Electronics series, remember those?Quote:
Originally Posted by jugglindan
I've been seriously thinking about doing a diy scratch-build OTL Headphone amp build project for a long time, OTL is short for Output Transformerless, basically an OTL Headphone amplifier is a Tube/Valve Headphone amplifier that does not use an output transformer in it's design to drive a pair of headphones, OTL Headphone amps are more for HiFi music reproduction, I thought that building one from scratch would be a fun project, I might start a thread about my build in the Amplifiers section just in case other members are interested in building one, I will be documenting the build progress as I work on it.
I'm currently working on a diy OTL Headphone amp based on this design article I found on the internet, my build will be using three new Svetlana 6N1P twin triode valves I bought online from Evatco, here's a link to the webpage article that gives full construction details:
https://headwizememorial.wordpress.c...one-amplifier/
It looks relatively easy to build too, even though it is a piece of high-endy HiFi gear, there's no reason why it couldn't be used with a valve guitar amp with an FX loop, just plug the send into the OTL Headphone amp's input, or plug the line-out of a rackmount guitar valve preamp, like a Marshall JMP-1, or an ADA, Rocktron Piranha, Digitech 2112, etc, into the OTL Headphone amp's input.