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Simon Barden
30-12-2017, 10:54 PM
If you've got a kit where holes need drilling for a Tune-O-Matic style bridge and stop tailpiece e.g.

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I found a useful tip for positioning the bridge perfectly in a recent article in the UK's 'Guitar' magazine.

You need to find the right position for drilling the holes so that the strings run down the neck at an equal distance from each side, and at the right distance and angle so that the strings can all be intonated. With no holes drilled for either the bridge or tailpiece posts, (this method also works for wrap-over bridges) then it's all a bit hit-and-miss, regardless of how well you measure up. It's not something you want to get wrong.

A good way to get the bridge in the right position is to first fit a cheap trapeze tailpiece to the guitar. There are plenty on eBay.

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You only need use the the hole for the rear strap pin as it's only a temporary arrangement, and it doesn't need to be a perfect fit if you want to position your strap pin in a slightly different vertical location. With a bare wood body, you could probably just gaffer tape it to the body. The main thing is that you fit the tuners to the headstock (even if only temporarily) so that you can fit a set of strings between the tailpiece and the tuners and be able to bring the strings up to normal tension.

You'll be checking intonation adjustment, so I'd use (and sacrifice) a reasonable set of strings of your normal gauge for this purpose, rather than a rusty old set that won't intonate properly. For the sake of a few dollars, it's a lot easier and less stressful than getting it wrong and having to fill the holes and re-drill them.

You are going to want to check the intonation, so you'll need to temporarily wire up a pickup to an output jack so you can tape the pickup into a cavity and plug the pickup into a tuner.

Then string up the guitar and first make sure the trapeze tailpiece is located so the strings run parallel to the sides of the neck.

Then, push the bare T-O-M bridge under the stings (without posts) and use some packing pieces underneath to raise the bridge up so that the strings are running over the bridge with enough overall height to represent a decent string action across the neck. You can now move the bridge around until the treble and bass strings can be intonated and the strings are still running parallel to the sides of the neck. Then use the bridge post holes to mark the centres of the body post holes, remove the strings, bridge and pickup and you can now drill your bridge post holes safely.

The stop tailpiece holes are easier to drill as the tailpiece is at right-angles to the centreline of the body. As long as the trapeze tailpiece isn't a very long one, whilst everything is still strung up, you can slide it under the strings and mark up a position where the tailpiece holes line up with the strings. Gibson normally have the tailpiece 1-1/2" from the TOM bass side post hole and 1-5/8" on the TOM treble side post hole (centre to centre), though you can move it further back than this if you wish. Just don't put the tailpiece too close to the bridge or you'll have trouble with getting clean string break angles.

tommycarlos
31-12-2017, 01:39 AM
That is genius. Thanks for sharing!

Simon Barden
31-12-2017, 02:02 AM
I thought it was! As I said, it's someone else's idea, but it is definitely worth sharing.

Sonic Mountain
31-12-2017, 07:34 AM
Nice, filing that tip away. Welcome back Simon (If you haven't heard that enough already :) )

Jim Roberts
31-12-2017, 09:15 AM
Hi, would this method work for the JB-4 bridge? I really want to get this right.
thanks,
Jim

Simon Barden
31-12-2017, 05:26 PM
Hi, would this method work for the JB-4 bridge? I really want to get this right.
thanks,
Jim

Hi, Jim. It might be made to work as you can get 4-string bass trapeze bridges, but it would depend on the bridge construction and the height of the saddles. You'd need enough saddle height so that the strings cleared the rear lip of the bridge. But it's probably overkill for a Fender-style bass bridge. The normal trick of running normal string through the E and G string holes is good enough to get the bridge placed centrally, and measuring the scale length to the G string saddle with the saddle wound to within 5mm of the end of the adjustment screw will sort out the fore/aft positioning.

The positioning on a Tune-O-Matic bridge, because of the angle of install and the relatively small intonation adjustment available on it is nothing like as easy to locate correctly. Most PBG kits already have the T-O-M posts drilled beforehand, but there are now a couple of kits without any pre-drilling (though Tune-O-Matic bridges are not the only option here), and there are always custom kit options where you don't want pre-drilled holes as you want to fit your own hardware with a different hole diameter requirement to the standard kit bridge.

fender3x
11-01-2018, 08:40 AM
I used a similar approach to the one Simon suggests (read it somewhere, but not sure where). A couple of small variations... I did not use guitar strings, I used actual strings pulled tight over the nut and through the peg head holes. I left the saddles in the bridge and just measured for the intonation. It seems to have worked.

The other thing I added to this process was a drilling jig.

http://www.buildyourownguitar.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=5908&highlight=Fender3x

This is useful for any place you need perpendicular holes, but you either don't have a drill press or it won't reach. This is especially difficult if there is an arch in the top.

FWIW

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