Some tools that may interest from Aldi on 22 July 2017.

[ozzbike]

Ladies and Lads of Luthery,

I shall be venturing to Aldi tomorrow to get this.....

https://www.aldi.com.au/en/special-buys/special-buys-sat-22-july/saturday-detail-wk29/ps/p/digital-multimeter-1/

Not a bad price for a multi meter with temperature probe.

I don't know if this would be much use.....but I have been considering putting a spray setup together....even just for clear coat finishes.

https://www.aldi.com.au/en/special-buys/special-buys-sat-22-july/saturday-detail-wk29/ps/p/air-brush-kit-150w/

Anybody with experience with spray work got any ideas. It is $99.99, comes with a moisture trap and filter, adjustable regulator 20 to 23 litres per minute.....5cc cup and 20cc pot. Max pressure of 4 bar, whatever that is in PSI.

I don't have the use for a big setup nor the justification for about $300 from super cheap or the BGS.

Tempted.

[wazkelly]

Multi meter looks similar to ones for around same price at Jaycar or BGS.

Wonder if they will have more than just one of each catalogue special per store as is often the case so they create plenty of foot traffic?

[ozzbike]

Multi meter looks similar to ones for around same price at Jaycar or BGS.

Wonder if they will have more than just one of each catalogue special per store as is often the case so they create plenty of foot traffic?

Yeah had thought of that.....not great loss...not that keen....gonna check out the new store on Maroochydore Boulevard opposite Harvey Norman.

Do you have any suggestions about the airbrush setup?

[wazkelly]

You would need to get there very early and elbow some pensioners out of the way and then watch the stampede when the doors open.

Never used a compressor nor air brush so 'no comment' is all I have mate.

[ozzbike]

You would need to get there very early and elbow some pensioners out of the way and then watch the stampede when the doors open.

Never used a compressor nor air brush so 'no comment' is all I have mate.

Oh be nice mate....Deep Purple fans need to shop too. :)

[wazkelly]

Oh be nice mate....Deep Purple fans need to shop too. :)

Would they be the ones sporting a mullet?

[Simon Barden]

My experiences of trying to spray nitro with an airbrush were a complete failure. I got far too dry a spray - it just couldn't suck up thinned nitro from the bottle - too viscous. Note that it worked OK with other paints. It looks very much like the Aldi one - probably from the same Chinese factory.

You'd either need a gravity feed version to make it work (I wouldn't use the small open gravity feed cup they normally come with for nitro) or one with a pressurised paint container (not sure if you can actually get those with airbrushes). But IMO they really spray too small an area for clear coating. OK for sunburst edges and detailing, but to get any sort of area coverage you need to hold the airbrush too far away from the workpiece, which gives too dry a spray. You can't really spray much more than a 3cm circle with an airbrush.

For guitar work I'd be looking at a mini-spray gun and a bigger compressor if you want to do any nitro work (obviously these are also good for other paint types). But for guitars don't get a full-sized spray gun (great for painting cars but you get through paint at a huge rate of knots - plus a lot of overspray), get a mini spray gun with something like a 0.8mm2 nozzle, which should give you a spray more akin to a good rattle can. You can then also get by with a smaller, quieter compressor.

I bought my compressor based on the full-sized spray gun I bought first, then realised it was too large and got a smaller one. I could have got a compressor with a 25 litre, rather than 50 litre receiver had I bought the mini-gun first!

Just my experience, but I note Phrozin also uses mini-guns for his guitar spraying.

[dave.king1]

I reckon the airbrush would be OK with thinned acrylic for burst but i wouldn't want to try and spray a full guitar body with one.

A single piston direct drive compressor and an Ozito or similar HPLV detail spray gun would be my starting point, get a decent moisture trap/regulator from a spray shop.

Learn to drive that and it will see you home, won't have the capacity for airtools but more than enough for what you want.

I painted the car in my avatar with this basic setup but did have a quality full size HPLV gun.

Now have a much bigger compressor

[WeirdBits]

My picks would be:
Needle File set (https://www.aldi.com.au/en/special-buys/special-buys-sat-22-july/saturday-detail-wk29/ps/p/assorted-precision-hand-tools/), great for shaping inlay and little touch-ups.
Hobby Tool Accessory Kit (https://www.aldi.com.au/en/special-buys/special-buys-sat-22-july/saturday-detail-wk29/ps/p/hobby-tool-accessory-kit-300pc-2/), should be fully Dremel fittable and a lot cheaper.

[Rabbitz]

The Aldi airbrush looks almost identical to the Ozito kit from the BGSFOS. Oh, and BGSFOS is $2 cheaper...

[ozzbike]

I got the multi meter.....the hand drills and the hand saws...little ones....already have a pack of files.

Then I found a router table discounted still sealed in the box.....and next to it the 1250watt router....snaffled them for half their listed price....just need the router bits now. :)

No airbrush.....thinking I may get the spray kit bit by bit...e.g. as Dave.King1 says above. :)

[wazkelly]

How was the stampede at opening time?

[ozzbike]

How was the stampede at opening time?

Ha ha ha.

I didn't go until 10. Was still busy though....the Sunshine Cove store is bigger and layer out nice. I just wandered around and browsed the workzone stuff.

I found the receipt today...router $49 router table $59......nice.

The air compressor was tiny....useless to me.

[wazkelly]

Local Caloundra one's layout is crap and stocked mainly with tins & packets in rows & rows with a center aisle with odd bits n pieces where you can fossick around to find some hidden bargain stuff. Can count on one hand how many times I have been there as not fussed on their product lines or customer buying experience. Catalogues do sometimes have some very tempting stuff I will admit.

[ozzbike]

Yes I know sitting at home lets me read junk mail.....but on sale at Aldi this Saturday 26th August 2017.....

Drill Press....

https://www.aldi.com.au/en/special-buys/special-buys-sat-26-august/saturday-detail-wk34/ps/p/drill-press-500w-2/

A benchtop table saw...with a saw installed.....

https://www.aldi.com.au/en/special-buys/special-buys-sat-26-august/saturday-detail-wk34/ps/p/210mm-benchtop-table-saw-1200w/

Not bad pricing....no worse quality than the Schidt from the B.G.S.

[WeirdBits]

The swing/throat on the drill press will probably limit its value, not deep enough for string-through holes. Just something to be aware of.

[wokkaboy]

yeah good point Weirdy, its 104mm so definitely not long enough for string through holes or bridge post holes.

[ozzbike]

yeah good point Weirdy, its 104mm so definitely not long enough for string through holes or bridge post holes.

I don't understand what this issue is you warn of?

It goes up and down with a spin of the wheel.....and you can move the deck up and down to reduce or increase the gap between the drill bit and the wood.

I thought that to drill string through holes you would just adjust the deck height so the wood fits. Put a small drill bit in.....drill through.....flip over the wood and put a larger drill bit....depth marked....and drill the recess for the ferrules.

I don't understand why this drill press would not work? The body wood is 40 to 60 mm thick, surely it can move that far?

[Fretworn]

I don't understand what this issue is you warn of?

It goes up and down with a spin of the wheel.....and you can move the deck up and down to reduce or increase the gap between the drill bit and the wood.

I thought that to drill string through holes you would just adjust the deck height so the wood fits. Put a small drill bit in.....drill through.....flip over the wood and put a larger drill bit....depth marked....and drill the recess for the ferrules.

I don't understand why this drill press would not work? The body wood is 40 to 60 mm thick, surely it can move that far?

But there isn't enough distance from the upright to the drill bit to reach the bridge area for string-throughs. It would be ok for tuner holes and other holes that are closer to the edge of the wood.

[ozzbike]

Oh...so the distance or depth of wood you can push behind the drill bit is too skinny....bugger. Oh well.

[wokkaboy]

that's it Ozz, depth of the hole is no problem, the body will hit the upright post before the drill bit reaches the bridge area of the guitar. Need at least 150/160mm throat distance

[Simon Barden]

To drill say post holes in a body, you need to move the body so that the post hole locations you've marked up are directly underneath the drill. If the post hole centres are greater than 104mm from the edge of the body, then you'll never be able to move the body to the right position under the drill. The body will hit the drill support post first before it's in position and you simply can't move the body in any way which will get the drill in the right spot.

So, you need a drill press with the chuck a longer distance away from the support post in order to drill post holes and through-body stringing holes. For a Tele, you'd need at least a 140mm 'throat' distance (from centre of chuck to the edge of the support post) in order to drill the string-through body holes. For a Les Paul style guitar, you'd need at least 130mm depth to drill the stop-bar support holes. Worst-case scenario I can think of would be something like a 335-style guitar body where you'd need around a 150mm throat to drill your own post holes.