PDA

View Full Version : 10 or 12 Cab Speaker



Guvna19
05-07-2017, 07:44 AM
G'day all,

Currently looking for a 1 x 10 or 1 x 12 Speaker to pair with my EL84 amp.

hoping to DIY a small cab.

been looking on gumtree/ebay etc, so if any one here has one for sale let me know the details.

thanks and regards

Guvna

nDR01d
05-07-2017, 04:47 PM
Hey Guv,
I'm pretty sure I still have a Pioneer sub woofer that was gifted to me around Christmas 2015 laying around. I still haven't got around to using it in a DIY speaker cab, but if it fits your bill of parts, I'd be happy to get rid of it - it's just collecting dust.
So the details are as follows:
1. Pioneer brand, Made in Mexico.
2. 10" speaker with "VCCS - Voice Coil Cooling System" on the front.
3. 500W max. 250W nom.
4. 4 Ohm
5. model number TS-W254F
6. "Free Air Use Sub Woofer" printed on the magnet bit at the back.
pm me if it's what you're after.

Andrew.

Guvna19
05-07-2017, 06:54 PM
thanks for the reply and offer Andrew,

I should've posted that I need an 8 or 16 ohm speaker for the amp

regards
Guv

nDR01d
06-07-2017, 12:32 PM
No worries mate, I hope one pops up for you soon.

wazkelly
06-07-2017, 08:48 PM
This one has been on eBay for ages and is 16 ohm... http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/VOX-VX12-CUSTOM-CELESTION-12-GUITAR-AMP-AC4C1-12-SPEAKER-/172728470906?epid=2102210987&hash=item28376b4d7a:g:CMwAAOSw4GVYTeO3
20469

Plenty of other decent ones on there lurking around the $100 dollar or under price point too.

dave.king1
07-07-2017, 05:48 AM
This one has been on eBay for ages and is 16 ohm... http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/VOX-VX12-CUSTOM-CELESTION-12-GUITAR-AMP-AC4C1-12-SPEAKER-/172728470906?epid=2102210987&hash=item28376b4d7a:g:CMwAAOSw4GVYTeO3
20469

Plenty of other decent ones on there lurking around the $100 dollar or under price point too.

It's out of a very small amp so I'd be wary of its power rating, but yeah there's plenty out there if you look

Guvna19
07-07-2017, 06:30 AM
What would be a well suited power rating for a 15/8 watt tube amp? Also should I aim for 16 or 8 ohm?
plan is for a 1 x 12 or 1 x 10 , amp has 8 - 16 outputs , been trying to compute all this new speaker jargin

dave.king1
07-07-2017, 07:13 PM
Depends on what you are looking for from the speaker, if you want the speaker to stay clean regardless of what the tubes are doing you need something that will handle quite a bit more, if you want the speaker to distort a 15W speaker will eventually give you that.

Then you have to consider the cone construction and magnet type they all sound different.

Chasing tone is a bugger isn't it, somewhere I have an article on speaker types and who used what so I'll have a dig over the next few days and see if I can find it

wazkelly
07-07-2017, 07:22 PM
It's out of a very small amp so I'd be wary of its power rating, but yeah there's plenty out there if you look

It's an 80w version Dave so plenty of headroom and the reviews reckon it is more on the clean than dirty side of the spectrum. Coming out of a Vox it would handle dirty sounds quite well too.

dave.king1
07-07-2017, 07:58 PM
Could be right Woks but I figured, possibly incorrectly that an AC4 was indeed 4 watts as per normal Vox product descriptions.

FWIW I have 700 watts worth of Eminence speakers in the 4x10 cab on my 100W amp ( 2x150 & 2x200 ) Alphas and Legends respectively.

wazkelly
07-07-2017, 08:24 PM
That is massive headroom overkill happening there Dave.

35 years ago I used 100W Marshall Super Bass Head with 4 x 12" 25W greenback Celestions Quad Box as it was originally from I was playing guitar. Was so loud it never got anywhere near speaker distortion levels. Mostly played 'just on' somewhere near 1 and on odd occasions bumped up to 2 which had my ears ringing for the next couple of days. Due to inept PA's of that era everything was super loud.

dave.king1
08-07-2017, 06:48 AM
That is massive headroom overkill happening there Dave.

I'm hearing ya Waz, I got them for a good price and they gave me the sonic combination I was looking for so it is what it is

Guvna19
08-07-2017, 09:54 AM
Going to look at a used Vox 1 x 12 cab today. has a Celestion speaker inside - 25watt 16 ohm.

hoping it will sound good with my 15watt tube amp, apparently the strauss amp i got is said to be a clone of the night train 15w so it may pair up nicely 2 12ax7 and 2 EL84

might mean i dont get to DIY the cabinet but thinking it may be good value

wazkelly
08-07-2017, 12:40 PM
Completed speaker cab at the right price = instant fun.

Guvna19
08-07-2017, 06:48 PM
Completed speaker cab at the right price = instant fun.

Yep, so much fun , amp and new cab sound way happy together :cool:, supersedes my old amp setup by a kilometre at least

20508

vox night train v112nt-g2

Dedman
08-07-2017, 08:31 PM
excellent! I'm guessing its gettin noisy round your way at present?

wazkelly
09-07-2017, 09:21 AM
Looks like the perfect setup.

How does it sound?

Guvna19
09-07-2017, 10:49 AM
Looks like the perfect setup.

How does it sound?

I really like it so far ,played for a few hours yesterday and was able to crank it up to around 3/4 max on both 16 an 8 watts. I think the greenback helps a lot which is way better than anything I've had previously

the guy i bought it from said it was low gain (his other equipment suggested he loves the metal sound) and not his style but i am hearing excellent gainy sounds even on suitable low volume, more so at 8 watts. playing the same old bluesy led zepp stuff I,ve always played sounds so much better, more defined with a cleaner yet crunchy gain. Clean sounds are there too.

I was a bit concerned it may have been too loud for home use, which it can be, however no issues at lower volumes for my ears.

Tried the boss gT6 in front of it just using the distortion chrous and reverb on the bright channel and can get ranges of tones beyond my dreams and ability.

anyway Mrs is going out soon so back to the evil sound den for me.....:cool:

wazkelly
09-07-2017, 05:30 PM
Sounds like you are having a ton of fun. Good score on both the head and cabinet.