Wiring questions

[Guvna19]

So im hoping to wire up a tele bridge single coil pick and use a humbucker (2 wire) for neck pick- up , have 1 volume , 1 tone ,and if possible use the 3 way LP switch i have. the switch has 3 posts only and 1 earth. (least i thinks its earth - and 3 way/ could be 2way with middle position off?)

ive looked at the templates and closest is the tele 2 singles vol tone , but im unsure changing neck pup to bucker changes the wiring and if the LP 3 way switch can be used also


any assistance or suggestions appreciated

regards
Guvna

[wazkelly]

Hi Guvna, try this wiring diagram that I used on my EX-1 as it had one of those box style 3 way switches and all generic kit PUPs come just 2 wire irrespective of single coil or humbucker. You only get 4 wire on humbuckers where you have spent extra on upgrades to something like Entwistle or Tonerider.

https://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/pdf/PBG-2H1v1t3_non_tele_2014.pdf

[Guvna19]

thanks Wazkelly,

so single coil or humbucker in this case being generics can be wired the same way.

ie in the diagram i intend on using the tele bridge pup intead of the humbucker shown with all other wiring the same?

cheers

[Dedman]

yup, providing they are 2 wire pick ups you can wire them the same.

[Simon Barden]

all generic kit PUPs come just 2 wire irrespective of single coil or humbucker. You only get 4 wire on humbuckers where you have spent extra on upgrades to something like Entwistle or Tonerider.

Though for completeness, I think some of the bass kits now have 4-wire pickups.

[wazkelly]

Though for completeness, I think some of the bass kits now have 4-wire pickups.

Only some of the humbucker varieties Simon as the J & P Bass kits are still the typical F style single coils. Also just had a quick look on the store and 4 wire PUP's only come on EX's, FV's, IB's, MMB, PBH, & TB. For all the chrome covered bass humbuckers they are just 2 wire.

I was mainly referring to guitar kits which are all 2 wire and the 4 wire bass ones are paired off to look like 2 wires anyways. You actually have to separate the red from the white and then figure out which one goes where to make any sense out of the alternate wiring options this presents. Totally different on these Bass PUP's as there are no slugs or screws to guide you as to which one to coil split to and if done the wrong way around it sounds horrid.

Cheers, Waz

[Guvna19]

Hoping for a solution and some wiring assistance,

https://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-co..._tele_2014.pdf

for the bridge pup, im using a tele single coil and HB for neck, as Simon alerted me that 250k pots are best suited for single and 500k for HB's , im hoping to utilize the 2 pot types accordingly.

Can i wire it up with 2 volumes and no tone so as to have a 250k for single coil vol. and a 500k volume for the HB?... and still use the 3 way toggle to use both pups together?
or is there another way keeping the tone as well?

also will the same capacitors be suitable for both 250 and 500.

all the parts i have came from members here being the stock PB variety

thanks in advance
regards
Guvna

[WeirdBits]

Wiring it with just a 500K volume and 500K tone would be OK, depending on how fussy you want to get. The 500K's will better suit the humbucker, but if the single coil bridge is too bright you can just roll the tone off a bit... it's easy to get rid of treble but hard to get it back. You can always go to smaller values later if you really need it.

For the tone cap, it's very much personal preference. 0.047uF caps are genrally used for single coils and 0.022 for humbuckers, but in many cases 0.022's are used for both and would be my starting point.

[Guvna19]

Wiring it with just a 500K volume and 500K tone would be OK, depending on how fussy you want to get. The 500K's will better suit the humbucker, but if the single coil bridge is too bright you can just roll the tone off a bit... it's easy to get rid of treble but hard to get it back. You can always go to smaller values later if you really need it.

For the tone cap, it's very much personal preference. 0.047uF caps are genrally used for single coils and 0.022 for humbuckers, but in many cases 0.022's are used for both and would be my starting point.

Thanks for reply WeirdBits, appreciated:)

Guess i'll give it a go with the 500's and the green cap i already got, i'm still learning as i go, first time i built any kind of guitar and never done any electronics. All good experience at this point. might start lookin for some more bits as a fallback plan, ie some 250 pots and different caps. in hind sight probably should've look into the electronics side of things before i started routing pups.

Also , i will have a few bits left over to pass on if anyone wants them. 1 HB - 1 tele neck pup - 4 500k pups - green cap

[Simon Barden]

You could just go for the standard 250k Tele pots and live with a slightly duller neck pickup. Some Tele bridge pickups can be pretty shrill, and an even brighter sound with 500k pots could be unwelcome. Or you could compromise and use a 500k volume pot, but a 250k tone pot, which will probably sound closer to both controls being 250k pots but with a slightly brighter edge.

The capacitor value hardly affects things at all until you turn the tone control down. You'll notice a far bigger difference from the tone pot value than the capacitor value with the tone turned fully up. A 250k pot set on 10 is like setting the tone on a 500k pot to 5 for a linear pot and 3 on a log pot (using the same capacitor value).