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pablopepper
24-06-2015, 06:16 AM
Badly set neck needs to come off. I have access to an iron and one of these
http://www.tempoaustralia.com.au/images/onix/products/floor-laundry/FD-ZQ001.png.

Now, what I really need to know is what parts to concentrate on. Do I just go from the rear of the body, or should I hit it with steam from every available angle? Also, seeing as steam is, you know, water, and there is a fair bit of bare timber involved; how do I go about keeping the wood from becoming too damp?

Thanks in advance. :)

wokkaboy
24-06-2015, 07:04 AM
Hey Pabs. I've never removed a set neck might have to wait for DB to chime in. I'd suggest you apply painters tape to bare wood surrounding the pocket. I'd concentrate on aiming steam on all join faces and get a paint scraper that will fit to slowly wedge the bottom face is where most of the join strength is. Won't hurt to have a quick search on you tube either. Best tip is work slowly and don't force it

pablopepper
24-06-2015, 07:14 AM
Already scoured youtube. Nada, or rather nothing that didn't look destructive.

dingobass
24-06-2015, 09:15 AM
Hey Pabs,

I use a spatula and a small butane torch to heat it up.
Get it to a blue temp (you will see the colour change) then start to work it into the joints.
Keep working away at it and you should be able to get the neck off OK.

Steam really only works on Hide Glue. What I do is remove the last few dot markers and drill a small hole down through the fingerboard and neck until I hit the join.... Then grab a small ball inflating needle and a heat resistant hose that fits both steam machine and needle (stewmac sells a complete unit that fits onto most coffe machine steam nozzles).
Then carefully heat it up until the glue melts.

You then need to let everything dry out.........

pablopepper
24-06-2015, 09:43 AM
Well, this is pva glue. Shit, that sounds much more difficult. I just grabbed a paint scraper which I figured would be perfect, but it's got a plastic handle. Doh! To the hardware store I go...

Praise be to the wisest of guitar gurus (DingoBass).

kimball492
24-06-2015, 12:08 PM
http://youtu.be/nmd7UhAoQf4

pablopepper
24-06-2015, 01:48 PM
Thanks Kimball.

pablopepper
24-06-2015, 05:05 PM
Um, so, it's out. I just had the mother of all f#%k it moments and it has paid off.

I lifted the guitar up by the neck and I heard a very slight crackle, so I put one hand on the body, hung the neck off the edge of the table and pushed down. Not that hard. Off it came. For some reason there was copper tape under the end of the neck tenon! WTF?

Sketchy. I'm so surprised. I was not expecting that to happen at all.

keloooe
24-06-2015, 05:37 PM
Aaaaaaaannnnnd *POP* goes the neck!

bargeloobs
24-06-2015, 05:39 PM
Um, so, it's out. I just had the mother of all f#%k it moments and it has paid off.

I lifted the guitar up by the neck and I heard a very slight crackle, so I put one hand on the body, hung the neck off the edge of the table and pushed down. Not that hard. Off it came. For some reason there was copper tape under the end of the neck tenon! WTF?

Sketchy. I'm so surprised. I was not expecting that to happen at all.

I love it when a plan comes together, or comes apart as the case may be. Now you can relax.

pablopepper
24-06-2015, 05:40 PM
Aaaaaaaannnnnd *POP* goes the neck! Pretty much exactly that. :)

pablopepper
24-06-2015, 05:49 PM
I love it when a plan comes together, or comes apart as the case may be. Now you can relax.

I know, right? This has been bugging me all day. I was at least not expecting to get anything done before the weekend.

wokkaboy
24-06-2015, 07:19 PM
nice one Pablo, good result. Sounds like the neck would have lifted out of the pocket when you put string tension on it.
Thats hilarious copper shielding in the neck pocket, thats taking shielding a little too far hhaaaha

pablopepper
24-06-2015, 08:22 PM
Yeah, I'm kinda surprised it didn't. I reckon the copper prevented the glue from getting a hold and the tenon hasn't been masked or sanded so that wouldn't have helped either.

Nickosaurus
24-06-2015, 08:31 PM
nah brahhh the shielding just improved the transfer to the body aayyyy

pablopepper
24-06-2015, 08:36 PM
Haha! :)

Nickosaurus
24-06-2015, 08:49 PM
But seriously, it's actually a big score that the shielding blocked the adhesion. I've seen some shocking set neck removals because the joints were simply so strong.

Have you decided on a colour yet mate?

pablopepper
24-06-2015, 09:01 PM
Yeah man, it was scarily easy and it solves what I figured was going to be the trickiest part of this. Win.

I'm going to go for a wine red. Tried it before, turned a bit pink. Might try those ubeaut dyes.

Nickosaurus
24-06-2015, 09:06 PM
Choice.

They are very strong. I don't think you'll have any trouble getting a proper red at all. Just don't dilute it too much. The blue on my IB was pretty much almost straight with just a tiny tiny touch of red.

keloooe
25-06-2015, 05:41 AM
nah brahhh the shielding just improved the transfer to the body aayyyy

BAHAHAHAHAHA! Indeed Nicko, must've thought the copper increases the transfer of kinetic energy to the body!

stan
25-06-2015, 08:22 AM
set neck removal,
Pab's Method:

http://images.rapgenius.com/83edb82ca52dd1dba1d00b595ad1fa3a.500x535x1.jpg

pablopepper
25-06-2015, 12:15 PM
Lol, nice one Stan.

And, for anyone reading this in the future - This is not the correct way to do it!!!!! Duh.

keloooe
25-06-2015, 03:20 PM
Lol, nice one Stan.

And, for anyone reading this in the future - This is not the correct way to do it!!!!! Duh.

Really, I though it was the way to do it! :D

dingobass
25-06-2015, 05:58 PM
Then there is this method.....

keloooe
25-06-2015, 06:11 PM
Then there is this method.....

YAYYYYYYYYYY!!!! Fun with hammers!

bargeloobs
25-06-2015, 06:51 PM
Lol, nice one Stan.

And, for anyone reading this in the future - This is not the correct way to do it!!!!! Duh.

Hey it's off ain't it;-) I reckon that tape in the neck pocket was a blessing in disguise.

stan
25-06-2015, 07:07 PM
method doesn't matter if the result is the once desired

Fretworn
26-06-2015, 11:16 AM
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