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TheDangerMan
26-05-2014, 02:24 PM
Hey guys,

So as this guitar is half PitBull stuff and half not, I have decided to start a build diary showing my progress from scratch which will hopefully get me another kickass telecaster!

I picked up the tele body recently for a steal so I thought, as I had successfully done a TL-1 kit, why not make this into my next project?

I have just ordered a TON of new stuff to go into this beauty, including a tonerider TL set and every piece of new hardware (in Gold) imaginable.
The colour scheme I am going with is gold hardware on the red paisley body, maple neck and finger board finished in Wudtone Amber (Just have to wait on the new TL necks to come into PBG) and matching gold machine heads.

My main area of trouble, I think, will be the wiring of the control plate to Tele spec as I am unfamiliar with wiring in general. However, I will cross that bridge when I get to it :)

Looking forward to getting this into a gig-able guitar as a paisley tele is something that I have been dreaming about ever since I picked up the guitar (some 7-8 years ago)

TheDangerMan
http://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/da7c7-Body.png
http://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/x8r0z-Scratchplate.png

dingobass
26-05-2014, 02:35 PM
Schweet!
This wiring diagram will sort you out :)
http://www.buildyourownguitar.com.au/wp-content/uploads/pdf/PBG-TL-1.pdf

WeirdBits
26-05-2014, 04:13 PM
DB, he may need a little more guidance with the wiring as that diagram doesn't show the pre-wired elements that are included on the TL-1 kit control plate. Danger, once you work out exactly what components you will be using (switch type and pots etc), we can sort out a diagram that will show everything you need.

stan
26-05-2014, 11:54 PM
that is a very cool body Danger, your project sounds awesome

wokkaboy
27-05-2014, 05:57 AM
this axe should come up a treat with gold bling. So the body looks like its been clear coated too ?

TheDangerMan
27-05-2014, 06:12 AM
Cheers guys!

Scott - I have ordered two 500K pots, 022 Orange cap and a three way swtich from PBG As well as the Toneriders TL set. Is that all the info you're after? Thanks for the help!

Wokka - Yeah thats right. Has a clear coated finish on her. There are two very small dings on the front paisley bit but with any luck, the bridge should fit over them!

WeirdBits
27-05-2014, 09:12 AM
If you're using a CRL style 3-way lever switch with Toneriders, then this diagram (http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/wiring-diagrams/schematics.php?schematic=standard_tele) should be all you need.

If you have any questions, just ask, someone here will have the right answer.

DanMade
27-05-2014, 09:20 AM
That's gonna look sweet. Red paisley FTW.

Btw. Single coil pups are usually paired with 250k pots and .047 mfd caps. You can use 500k pots though the higher value pots will add more treble to your sound, thus why 500k pots are used with humbuckers.

This only matters on the volume pot, the tone pot can be of any value, as I understand.

kells80aus
27-05-2014, 10:06 AM
Hi tDM,
STUNNING Body. don't be concerned about mixing and matching PBG bits with bits from other sources. The story of this guitar is all about the journey. I'd love to know how the paisley pattern got on that body. it is simply fascinating to me. As a kid in school I used to draw paisley all over my school books. but now it's some 45+ years on and there isn't a cocky shit hope in hell of me ever doing another paisley. I simpley love what you have on this Tele. please keep us up to date with what you do and how you do it to this guitar.

Cheers PK

TheDangerMan
29-05-2014, 10:00 AM
Hey DanMade, thanks for the tip!
I spoke to DB so basically just went off his suggestion

Hey PK, yeah there is something about paisley that I love!
Getting more parts in the next few days so ill be sure to keep y'all in the loop :)

Its a shame I cant get my PBG neck till next month, but my patience will pay off! :)

DanMade
30-05-2014, 01:39 AM
That's cool Danger. There's no rule to say it has to be done that way.

If that's what DB recommends I'd go with that. Caps and pots are easy enough to change and experiment with to find the combination that suits the tone you are after for each particular guitar.

TheDangerMan
30-05-2014, 01:45 AM
DanMade - Cheers for the heads up though, I am pretty new to guitar electronics so any advice is great :)
I'll be doing another TL-1 soonish, so ill muck around with different pots and caps for sure!

TheDangerMan
05-06-2014, 10:37 PM
Hey guys,

Build update!

Recieved all my hardware for the body last night so I am now ready to start the wiring.
Should hopefully have it done in the next week or so as I have my mid semester exams

Enjoy some pictures of the mock up build :)
http://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/7qjrr-P1.png

TheDangerMan
05-06-2014, 10:38 PM
And again..
http://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/3k45a-P2.png

DanMade
06-06-2014, 01:58 AM
You could of warned me to put some sunglasses on Danger. All that gold bling is blinding my eyes, lol.

It's looking very classy.

wokkaboy
06-06-2014, 02:11 AM
love the gold bling on the red paisley, this will come up a treat. What design you got planned for the headstock ? You might have to paint the headstock red and get Andyport to make you a paisley transfer

TheDangerMan
06-06-2014, 03:45 AM
Sorry DanMade! Its a bit shiny isnt it?!

Wokkaboy - Hmm I had toyed with that idea but im going to go vintage with the headstock. It'll be standard Tele shape with Vintage Amber wudtone on the neck (and fretboard). I've also ordered some gold machine heads which should be arriving soon (props to PBG/Adam/DB for getting it set to me some 8-10 hours after I purchased it!)

pablopepper
06-06-2014, 04:34 AM
I hope you like being noticed, because with this beast strapped on you are gonna attract stage lights. Yes, even in your bedroom.

johnnychronic
06-06-2014, 05:45 AM
/<\\/p>[]<\\/p>/Quote from pablopepper on June 5, 2014, 13:34
you are gonna attract stage lights. Yes, even in your bedroom.

ROFLOL.

TheDangerMan
06-06-2014, 08:10 AM
Pablopepper - Thats what I was going for!

Brendan
06-06-2014, 11:47 AM
DangerMan - looking schmick with all that gold bling! Keen to see how it turns out!

TheDangerMan
06-06-2014, 12:53 PM
Cheers Brendan!

So im at the stage of wiring my control plate and I have a super basic question regarding wires...
That is, what kind do I use to 'join the dots' on my pots, jack etc
Will any kind do or do I need a specific kind?
I did buy some vintage cloth wire from the PBG store, is this suitable?

Sorry for the newbie question - This is a first for me

stan
06-06-2014, 08:04 PM
I presume you are talking about all the earthed wiring. You can use the vintage wire, just solder up the inner wire in this case. However half decent pvc insulated wire would be fine as well.

This is looking awesome mate, a real eye catcher for sure - hope you can play : with red paisley comes great expectations

TheDangerMan
07-06-2014, 12:45 AM
Cheers Stan, off to Altronics I gooo

Im not one to speak for my playing but... I think I might need to get a bit of practice in ;)

TheDangerMan
07-06-2014, 06:32 AM
So far - So good!

Will put some more pictures up when I get my neck wudtone'd :)
http://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/30i3a-WP_20140606_012.jpg

TheDangerMan
14-06-2014, 03:36 AM
Hey guys!

So I found an unused neck in a garage sale the other day and I brought it home, sanded it down and attempted to put it on my Paisley Tele body. However...

As you can see in the pictures, it is so very close to fitting the neck rout on the guitar but is still not getting in there. Also, the neck seems a tad too long (when I compare where the neck finishes on my TL1 and this, the fretboard finishes quite close to the neck pickup).

So, I have a couple of questions for the wise ones of the pitbull guitar forum. Firstly, should I sand back/ jigsaw a thin sliver of the bodys neck join away to fit the neck?
Secondly, should I also jigsaw a fret off the end so there is a suitable distance from the end of the fretboard to the neck pickup?

Thanks in advance!

http://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/3p678-WP_20140613_004.jpg
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wokkaboy
14-06-2014, 04:27 AM
Hey Danger, nice score a garage sale neck !
It would be much safer to sand back the neck heel so it fits in the neck pocket. I wouldn't be putting a jigsaw anywhere near the neck pocket ! get some 40 grit paper and sand the neck heel till it fits, then go up higher grits to remove the sanding marks. Keep checking the fit as you don't want to over sand the heel and have a sloppy fit. If you have an orbital sander this should be a 5 minute job.
As for the longer fingerboard at the heel, I'd try and cut off the overhang about 2-3mm from the 22nd fret and you may save the 22nd fret. From the side shot the should be enough clearance to the neck pup but it will be much clearer the gap once the neck is seated in the pocket

good luck !

WeirdBits
14-06-2014, 04:51 AM
Make sure you take the same amount off each side of the neck heel, a little at a time, so that the neck remains centred in the pocket. Once you get the neck seated correctly you can then decide about the fretboard overhang.

TheDangerMan
14-06-2014, 05:31 AM
Thanks so much for the advice guys!
I am happy to report she fits nice and snug in the pocket no worries at all :)

Now, for another quick question...
You'll notice the neck has smoothed edged corners on the underside where it fits in the neck cavity (See picture). Should I sand this so it is completely square?
I feel like this is the next step as it provides for the neck to fit right snug against all 3 sides.
Any advice, again, is much appreciated!
http://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/sae8j-WP_20140613_009.jpg

wokkaboy
14-06-2014, 05:53 AM
Good thought Weirdy, forgot to mention sand both sides of the neck heel.
Danger yes you will have to sand the heel bottom edge so it fits the shape of the neck pocket. Just sand small amounts at a time and test fit. Eventually you will replicate the neck pocket shape

TheDangerMan
14-06-2014, 08:38 AM
Sage advice Wokka, thanks again!

I jumped the gun a bit and placed the scratch plate as well as the neck pickup.

Wudtone'd the neck (still have to take a bit off the board as well as fully level the joint that we were talking about before), so pictures to come!
http://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/dvcbf-InstagramCapture_860e17e1-beaa-4ce2-802b-eba75aafb49e_jpg.jpg

stan
14-06-2014, 08:56 AM
this is coming along well, how is the neck fit going now?

TheDangerMan
14-06-2014, 10:26 AM
Yeah neck is pretty spot on Stan.
Im going to take half a fret off the board so when I get around to doing that, ill finish sanding it down

Brendan
14-06-2014, 11:15 AM
Looking great DangerMan! Just quick check - how's the scale length going there? Your bridge is pretty set where it is so there isn't much scope for movement. Given you've got 2 differently sourced parts in the neck and the body, it'd be important to make sure it's within tolerances.

TheDangerMan
14-06-2014, 12:26 PM
Cheers Brendan!
Just checked the scale length - All good!
Same length for both the nut to 12th - 12th to bridge saddles

Analyst69
15-06-2014, 05:03 AM
Really love the finish on this one Dangerman. The gold and red paisley looks fabulous and the gold hardware just brings it all together.

Cheers

Darren

TheDangerMan
15-06-2014, 07:21 AM
Cheers Darren, Im doing a vintage amber neck with a maple board. Should (hopefully) look a treat!

lawry
15-06-2014, 07:34 AM
I reckon the vintage amber with the red will look stunning. They should set each other of beautifully.

Brendan
15-06-2014, 11:06 AM
Great news! Hard to fix it once it's all screwed together :) .

TheDangerMan
16-06-2014, 08:58 AM
Hey guys,

So ive gotten my hands on a decent jigsaw for my headstock and I've put on one coat of wudtone vintage amber.

Ill cut it tomorrow then spend my day shaping it so its perfect.

I've also had a bit of a muck around with the vintage amber (Sanded with 400 grade wet dry, steel wool) and Ill continue trying a couple of things with it to give it more of a vintage feel.

Anyway, ill give you guys an update when I get the headstock done and finished and, likely, when I get to putting the strings on!
http://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/82a78-WP_20140615_001.jpg
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