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vh2580
26-04-2014, 12:57 AM
Finally able to start building again in a new albeit smaller mancave.
So decided to start with an IB7 fitted with Entwistle Darkstars and neckwork by DB,upgraded brass toneblock on "floyd" (if it can fit without mods.)
Body has a fair bit of glue on it but nothing that wont come off.
Only one small issue to fix on the neck with a divot in the fretboard that will need to find a closematching putty to fix. (or if anyone has any other suggestions).
As a finish Wudtone Black Magic Woman in a one colour burst/fade with Silver highlights, I can see it in my head but thinking that the reality may be a little different.Was looking at doing heavy base coats around the edges and then using thinned coats toward the centre or using base coats to achieve the fade. Well nothing ventured nothing gained.
http://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/24r1m-IB7-1.jpg
http://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/88v9a-IB7-2.jpg
http://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/5ad0k-IB7-3.jpg

wokkaboy
27-04-2014, 02:10 AM
looks great Tony, should look good in BMW, its one of the harder colours to get consistent but just keep applying it till you get even coverage. I don't have an IB7 in my collection, maybe when it comes on a Sunday special !

vh2580
29-04-2014, 09:26 AM
Applied some BMW to my IB7 on the weekend and found that contrary to what has been posted it wasnt difficult to work with, it was damn near impossible. After educating my new neighbours with a plethora of obscure variations of commmon swear words, I decided that it would be best to stop and let dry.
Decided that the finish was poor and started to sand back this arvo and part way through on a whim (as i still had to sand back) applied some of the Cherry flamenco deep colour that was still wet on the cloth from the headstock of another guitar.
After several coats ended up with below which am supprisingly happy with.
Has a weird coppery effect and now its either stop and clear coat or play around with either BMW base coats or not.
http://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/8i9u3-IB7-4.jpg
http://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/l2kh4-IB7-5.jpg
http://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/dgzw3-IB7-6.jpg

Brendan
29-04-2014, 01:29 PM
Neat effect - as for the fretboard - maybe some superglue and while it's wet sand in some more rosewood??? Wokks / DB / the Gavmeister may be able to provide better advice...

wokkaboy
29-04-2014, 11:42 PM
Tony that colour looks excellent, I did warn you BMW is one of the harder colours to get right and its hard to get a dark appearance - Dingotones new black will be much darker.
As for filling the fingerboard probably some dark coloured timbermate wood filler as close to rosewood colour, let it dry, then thin superglue over it, then lightly sand back with a high grit paper or steel wool

Fretworn
30-04-2014, 02:45 AM
Quote from vh2580 on April 28, 2014, 18:26
http://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/l2kh4-IB7-5.jpg
http://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/dgzw3-IB7-6.jpg

That looks impressive, especially the back. I would be very tempted to go straight to clear now. It looks aged and worn in without the dreaded relic-ing. If the front had turned out as good as the back there would be no question for me at all. Those "bare" patches on the edges are the my only issues with the finish and it may look better than this in real life anyway.

vh2580
09-06-2014, 09:58 AM
Finally had an opportunity to get back to doing some work on this guitar. Added two coats of BMW base over the top of the existing colour to dampen the red a bit and now happy with colour and ready to start clear coating.
Now to finish headstock and hopefully by next weekebnd can start assembling.
http://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/2xp4j-IB7-Upd-1.jpg
http://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/hqjpp-IB7-Upd-2.jpg
http://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/860x4-IB7-Upd-3.jpg

west0288
09-06-2014, 11:01 AM
That is a surprisingly pleasant colour, Tony.

It is amazing what unfortunate events often lead to.

Keen to see the finished product mate. :)

Analyst69
09-06-2014, 11:09 AM
Love the finish you got from the combination of two Wudtone colours.

gavinturner
09-06-2014, 12:05 PM
Looking great Tony. Love the colours and the way the combination has highlighted the grain. Should be awesome with some clear coats on there!

cheers,
Gav.

lawry
09-06-2014, 09:56 PM
Hey Tony. I'm sure I could hear you swearing from my place ;)
I like the shimmery-ness of the two colours together, it looks a bit like an old 2 cent coin (yes, young 'uns there used to be 1 & 2 cent coins).
What is the other guitar that your putting the cherry flamenco on? I've forgotten - getting old, you know.

vh2580
09-06-2014, 10:42 PM
Hi Lawry
The cherry flameco was for an IB5 (have to order some more now). The tarnished copper look was what I was hoping for once i started mucking around after applying the first coat of CF.

bargeloobs
09-06-2014, 10:51 PM
/<\\/p>[]<\\/p>/Quote from vh2580 on June 8, 2014, 18:58
Finally had an opportunity to get back to doing some work on this guitar. Added two coats of BMW base over the top of the existing colour to dampen the red a bit and now happy with colour and ready to start clear coating.
Now to finish headstock and hopefully by next weekebnd can start assembling.


I reckon you've nailed that body colour, it looks great! Are you going the same style for the headstock or a flat colour?

vh2580
09-06-2014, 11:51 PM
Well started on the headstock and dont think it is going to work out using the same method as the guitar body and get it dark enough so will have to sand back and rethink. Might go solid paint colour but may look at a darker walnut style stain. Want it dark so that the logo I want to start using will stand out (werewolf outline is plagiarised ,but hey wasnt bolted down).
http://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/1wa82-IB7-Upd-4.jpg
http://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/2l1h0-IB7-Upd-5.jpg
http://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/f8bal-IB7-Upd-6.jpg

dingobass
10-06-2014, 12:14 AM
Ahhh, the perennial problem of Wudtone not liking Rock Maple....
There are a few workarounds, one is to sand to 240 grit so you have a good "tooth" and DONT steel wool between coats.
Apply the coats very thinly and give them a few days to dry between.

The other work around is to find a suitable coloured stain from you know where- I wont send you to the Naughty Room, this time :) -
Strip back the Wudtone, give it a coat of said stain leave it for a few days and try the Wudtone again....

That logo looks familiar :) is it a DePaul from Vietnam? If so, I would highly recommend getting hold of the real thing as they are extremely well made and the Gold Mother of Pearl would totally rock on the colour scheme :)

vh2580
10-06-2014, 12:29 AM
Hi DB
Yep it is a DePaul. Thought about the inlay thing, little bit daunting but would probably look better than decal.
Will have to think on that one. Have the dremel and SM router base and bits. Would have to have a go sometime I suppose

dingobass
10-06-2014, 01:20 AM
It is easier than you would think :)
Start by cutting out the interior bulk with the larger router bit then slowly go up to the outline with the little one.

If, or in my case, when you overshoot the line dont panic as you can back fill around the inlay with sanding dust and a drop of thin super glue.
Alternately you can colour up a smidge of timbermate and back fill that way.

vh2580
02-08-2014, 11:20 AM
Finally had a chance to get back into this build (thinking of changing my last name to Leyland)

So now wired up and ready to fit and drill neck tommorow. Still sorting decals and then can finish her off.

http://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/trb5c-even-newer-again-006.JPG
http://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/lmyb8-even-newer-again-008.JPG

stan
02-08-2014, 09:55 PM
That is a tough looking axe Tony, looks the good, love the logo

lawry
02-08-2014, 11:05 PM
Looking good Tony. And once I grow an extra finger I'll come round and have a play (if it's OK with you). Never tried a seven string.

ponch
05-08-2014, 09:29 AM
Looks amazing. Let us know how those pups sound!

wokkaboy
05-08-2014, 10:14 AM
Looks great Tony colour suits this model well. Look forward to a sound demo

vh2580
16-08-2014, 12:27 PM
Very close to completion now. Strung up and making noise.
Only decals, and the final setup of floyd, intonation etc to complete.

Gotta say these Entwistle Darkstars are Awesome. Even with an MXR Fullbore metal at max distortion and in drop A still well defined notes and good tone.
http://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/3zt04-newer-again-even-003.JPG

vh2580
16-08-2014, 12:32 PM
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http://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/p4760-newer-again-even-006.JPG

Nickosaurus
16-08-2014, 12:43 PM
Looks awesome man. How is the set up on it?

lawry
16-08-2014, 07:52 PM
That's fantastic, Tony. I'll definitely have to come around and check her out sometime cos I'm very keen to hear what these pups sound like.

vh2580
16-08-2014, 11:07 PM
Hi Nick only did preliminary setup on it last night and it was decent. Overnight the neck has pulled a bit and will have to relief a bit but it looks like it wont take much to get nice and low. not looking forward to intonating as always a pain in the butt on a floyd.

ponch
17-08-2014, 04:11 AM
Very cool. Are u going to do any sound demoes?

WillYounger
05-09-2014, 12:03 PM
Could someone help me out here, I have made this guitar also, and now stringing it up i have noticed a few problems:
the nut is actually off centre slightly and there is more space on the top string side than the bottom... I know string gauge should account for part of this, but this is like, much more than just string. Should i leave it along and just accept i'll have extra bending range on the high string, or?

also, for anyone who is putting their tuning down, using heavier gauge strings as i am, i would heavily advise buying extra springs in advance as i have 10-74s on my guitar, lopping the high E so that overall tuning will be 8 string tuning down half a step...

the other issue i have is that the constant buzzing of the guitar when i plug it in... this could well be my soldering job, please take this into consideration and comment if it needs it, or potentially the way the wires are placed in the body. does anyone else have a buzzing issue? if so, how did you overcome this?

Cheers
sorry for a huge chunk of stuff...

wokkaboy
05-09-2014, 12:13 PM
Hi Will Younger,
start a build thread and post some pics of the nut and the control cavity. Sounds like the nut has to be removed and re-glued or replaced into the correct position.
Does the guitar buzz all the time ? sounds like an earthing problem or the output jack you may have the hot and earth wire the wrong way around. Have you copper shielded the control cavity ?

WillYounger
07-09-2014, 01:37 PM
Cheers, will do!

ponch
08-09-2014, 01:28 AM
Hey mate, with the tone block, where did u get it from and is it a good upgrade? Cheers.

vh2580
08-09-2014, 06:16 AM
Hi Andrew I didnt end up ordering and let it stay as standard, I was then going to get one of the guys in the machine shop were I work to knock one up, but dont think it needs it. If the tone is any deeper Ill drown.
Ill do a demo shortly

ponch
08-09-2014, 06:59 AM
Sweet! Can't wait to hear it. Does it djent haha.

stan
08-09-2014, 10:17 AM
looks like a shredding machine, nice!