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dingobass
13-03-2014, 11:06 PM
Here's one for the wiring gurus....
After much scratching of bits, swearing and interweb searching I have come up with Zip, Zilch nuthin.....
My dilemma is I have a Guitar here that has single coil neck and middle with 'bucker at the bridge. The guy wants three separate volume, one tone and a six way rotary switch..... It has beaten me :x
Any one out there with any ideas?
Thanks.

keloooe
13-03-2014, 11:16 PM
try looking on GuitarElectronics.com DB, could help

dingobass
14-03-2014, 01:39 AM
Been there, Pest....

WeirdBits
14-03-2014, 01:47 AM
Does the client have a specific configuration they want on the on the 6-way? ie., specific split bridge combos with the other pups, or the 5 strat combos plus an everything on etc. ?

I've dabbled with 6-way rotaries before, so if you can list what switching options they want I should be able to come up with a workable diagram for you. Oh, and is it a 4-pole 6-way?

lawry
14-03-2014, 04:04 AM
Hi DB. Like Scott says. If you can find out exactly what your client wants we should be able to come up with something. And by we I probably mean Scott. He likes that weird stuff. Hence the name.

dingobass
14-03-2014, 04:06 AM
Hey Weirdy, Thanx mate! :)
The normal strat with an all on is exactly what we need.
The switch is a four pole six way.
This will raise you to Über Legend status :)

dingobass
14-03-2014, 04:07 AM
Hahahaha! Thanx Lawry :)

WeirdBits
14-03-2014, 04:32 AM
Working on it now...

Do you want Jazz bass style independent volumes, so turning down one pup doesn't mute any others that are on, or old LP style where one volume can mute the others?

Gavin1393
14-03-2014, 05:13 AM
DB, I'm on my way with my new StewMac 6 way -rotary -fixer- Tool.

Be there in 30 mins.....
http://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/5rw8k-smash.jpg

WeirdBits
14-03-2014, 07:47 AM
I've had a few interruptions, so it's a bit rushed… hopefully I haven't missed anything too major (I'm sure Lawry can double-check it).

This is set up like a Jazz where turning down one volume doesn't mute any other pickups etc. I made the assumption that you're not splitting the bridge, so all the pickup's grounds (negatives) just run to the common ground point at the back of the volume pot.

Turning the rotary switch clockwise gives the following:

1. Bridge
2. Bridge + Middle
3. Middle
4. Middle + Neck
5. Neck
6. Bridge + Middle + Neck

Here's the layout of the switch (only need 3 of the 4 poles), at least, this is how I have referenced it:
http://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/gk8d1-6way_4pole_switch.jpg


Here's the schematic. It would have been too messy with all the connections drawn so I've listed most of them instead, ie. "Bridge Vol 3" means connect to Bridge Volume pot lug 3 etc.
http://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/6yp09-DBs_cry_for_help.jpg


It's a bit hard to see all the connections on the switch in the drawing, so here they are mapped onto the switch image:
http://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/53qs3-6way_4pole_switch_connect.jpg


Is it clear enough? I think it's right, but like I said… rushed, so no money back guarantee ;)

dingobass
14-03-2014, 09:16 AM
Hey Weirdy,
THANK YOU!
You are hereby raised to Über Legend Wiring Maestro :)

dingobass
14-03-2014, 09:19 AM
/<\\/p>[]<\\/p>/Quote from Gavin1393 on March 13, 2014, 14:13
DB, I'm on my way with my new StewMac 6 way -rotary -fixer- Tool.

Be there in 30 mins.....
http://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/5rw8k-smash.jpg


Bwahahahaha!
I had considered breaking out the chainsaw......

WeirdBits
14-03-2014, 10:02 AM
hehe you better check that it works as intended before bestowing any titles ;)

wokkaboy
14-03-2014, 11:31 AM
Glad there's a wiring guru in the forum, looks good Scott.
DB if it doesn't work I like Gavmiesters plan 'B' haha
Also DB it would be funny if you had the power to change our status as 'in the naughty room' haha

lawry
14-03-2014, 08:49 PM
Ya know, having a rotary switch to select all those pup options sounds like a cool idea but I can't really see it working on-the-fly. With something like a 5-way toggle you can see what setting you're on at a glance and a quick flick puts you where you want to be. Not saying it's a bad idea, just not as easy to operate. I guess you could use a chicken head or barbell knob but you still have to turn them, not just flick them.

Gavin1393
14-03-2014, 09:41 PM
Agree with you lawry about rotary switches on the fly. I really like the Freeway 6 way switches (stewMac) . They operate exactly like a three way but differentiate by having an up position and a down position. I used one on my Midi Relic to give me all the Gibson and Fender settings plus an Ibanez setting with two Humbuckers and single coil in the middle. So at the flick of a switch i can have three single coils ala stratocaster, two single coils at the neck and bridge as per telecaster and so on....

lawry
14-03-2014, 09:53 PM
Didn't know about the Freeway 6 switch, Gav. That's something I'll check out, thanks. And it sounds like a much easier way to get where you want to be.

lawry
14-03-2014, 09:59 PM
Just had a look at the web site for Free-Way. There are a few wiring schematics there too that may have the configuration you're after DB. Or you can go with a Weirdy Designs original as Scott has come up with something cool (again).

http://www.freewayswitch.com

lawry
14-03-2014, 10:50 PM
Ah, DB. I noticed that you used the words "so far".
Methinks I sense a veiled aura of megalomania lurking there!

Gavin1393
14-03-2014, 10:54 PM
/<\\/p>[]<\\/p>/Quote from lawry on March 14, 2014, 07:50
Ah, DB. I noticed that you used the words "so far".
Methinks I sense a veiled aura of megalomania lurking there!

Lawry, he was diagnosed positively years ago!!!!

dingobass
14-03-2014, 11:01 PM
Just messin with ya guys :)

I wouldnt want to change any of your status to in the naughty room...

dingobass
27-03-2014, 08:31 AM
It is official.... Weirdy is now elevated to the status of Uber Legend Wiring Guru!

Thanks heaps Mate, your diagram works a treat! :)

WeirdBits
27-03-2014, 11:09 AM
Happy to help... did we agree on a set fee or a percentage? ;)

dingobass
27-03-2014, 11:29 AM
A thank you is in tomorrows mail :)

wokkaboy
27-03-2014, 02:40 PM
so DB what are you mailing Weirdy as a reward for his wiring guru status ? is it a get out of the naughty room free card ?

dingobass
27-03-2014, 10:12 PM
Hahaha! Woks, Weirdy has been exempted from the naughty room for at least 12 months :)

wokkaboy
28-03-2014, 01:15 AM
really so Weirdy can shop at the big green shed and put any naughty finish on his axes and he'll be exempt for 12 months, what a bonus
What do I have to do to get a leave pass from the naughty room DB ? It's not much fun with no wifi, its getting crowded, messy and we've run out of beer again !

dingobass
28-03-2014, 09:57 AM
Woks, you could always pay the fine... a bottle of American Honey will get you out of the naughty room :P

wokkaboy
28-03-2014, 11:02 AM
hahah ok DB cheers I'll keep it in mind. If AJ doesn't return with more beer soon I may be forced to pay the fine