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maxaxe
01-11-2013, 11:52 AM
This project is the one I've been busting my strings to start.

The basis for this audacious (hee hee) bitzer will be a TL-1 neck, leftovers from an ST-1 plus lots of cool shit (I have no shortage of pinball parts let alone guitar bits)
The format will be a "cigar box" body proportioned to resemble a pinball machine cabinet.
Headstock will be shaped like a classic "wedgehead" pinball backbox.

The body will house its own inbuilt baby 9vdc amplifier & multi effects unit(see pic)gutted & wired to suit. These will be controllable from pinballesque knobs on the guitar itself.
A small speaker will be at each top corner of the body & semi-concealed. In addition there will be a fair bit of LED lighting fitted inside the body & parts within to give that blingy pinball look.
At this point I plan to use a single bridge humbucker to minimise clutter on what will equate to a pinball playfield inside the body.

9vdc will be supplied by what will appear to be a guitar lead connected to an off the shelf power supply. An electronics wiz mate is helping me here with calculating the required/available milliamps etc. to run all the on board stuff.

Pics below:

(1) First conceptual rough out superimposed on a Strat (see how a crazy mind really works?)
(2) Teaser pic with a few bits & pieces scattered around.

P.S. Please don't start with the "Tommy" jokes folks.








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stan
01-11-2013, 12:17 PM
has potential to be a most amazing build...

DanMade
01-11-2013, 12:17 PM
Wow, just wow.

I saw the picture in your other build thread and wondered what you were up to. Can't wait to see this take shape.
Love your concept drawing too. = )

GlennGP
01-11-2013, 09:06 PM
Well, I am SO looking forward to seeing this pan out. Please, tell me there's gonna be a "TILT" warning light!

pablopepper
01-11-2013, 09:16 PM
Love it. Love the idea. Love the name. You're imagination never ceases to amaze.

gavinturner
01-11-2013, 09:52 PM
Awesome concept. Can't wait to see how it shapes up. Love the concept art.

Cheers,
Gavin.

adam
01-11-2013, 09:54 PM
The concept art is worth framing. You're a true artist Max.

lawry
01-11-2013, 10:02 PM
I am sooo looking forward to watching this build. It should be insane.

Tim
01-11-2013, 10:39 PM
wow this is going to be something different.
And I have so many TOMMY lines I could use right now.. :(

Fretworn
02-11-2013, 01:27 AM
One question, wouldn't it be better to start with a 3 by 3 neck, rather than using a tele neck?

Still it's an insane concept, but if you've proved you could pull it off.

keloooe
02-11-2013, 04:36 AM
Wow... Just wow... If ya can pull this off, it will be the best PBG build I've ever seen!

maxaxe
02-11-2013, 09:55 AM
Big thanks for the warm reception everyone . . . your encouragement does help enormously.

Still lots of thinking, planning, drafting & work to do - but we're all used to that!

? GGP: there WILL now be a TILT warning light (which I'd overlooked!)
? Fretworn: not sure what a 3 x 3 neck is but I really only like slimlines.
? Andy: ta for suggesting a smashed mirror. I have safety acrylic mirror on hand.

Now it's off to the drawing board . . . again.

DanMade
02-11-2013, 11:10 AM
The 3x3 refers to there being 3 machine heads a side on the headstock as opposed to 6 inline like you have on the headstock from the ST-1 kit.

maxaxe
09-11-2013, 09:20 AM
/<\\/p>[/<\\/p>[]<\\/p>/]<\\/p>/Quote from DanMade on November 1, 2013, 20:10
The 3x3 refers to there being 3 machine heads a side on the headstock as opposed to 6 inline like you have on the headstock from the ST-1 kit.


Ah, of course - I'm a scatterbrain at times.
Yeah, the plan is to enlarge/modify the headstock as a wide 3 x 3 proportioned as per an old pinball backbox/headbox (see rough drawing).

Modicum of progress: drafted up 1:1 plans for the build . . .

maxaxe
14-11-2013, 09:57 AM
The old drawing board . . .

Pic is the 1:1 scale plan with a couple of bits & pieces placed on it for consideration.
There'll be a lot of the old "put & look" method to decide what goes where and how etc. etc.

I have collected most of the non-kit materials and begun cutting them to size using this plan for reference (no one plans to fail - they fail to plan) jeepers, I hope that's right?

Still lots of things to finalise and sort out but at least I'm starting to have some fun . . .


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Bass Guy
14-11-2013, 11:03 AM
This build diary promises to be (wait for it)... An Amazing Journey....

Certainly we can expect Sparks to fly...

I think it's alright, yes I think it's alright...

I'll stop now...

Fretworn
15-11-2013, 01:11 AM
http://www.guitarplayer.com/article/youre-playing-it-wrong-pinball-wizard/150920

Time to start practicing, so you will be ready for when it is finished.

GlennGP
15-11-2013, 08:02 AM
/<\\/p>[]<\\/p>/Quote from Fretworn on November 14, 2013, 10:11
http://www.guitarplayer.com/article/youre-playing-it-wrong-pinball-wizard/150920

Ooh, thanks for that!

maxaxe
15-11-2013, 11:15 AM
Time to start practicing, so you will be ready for when it is finished.

Thanks for the link guys - I have printed off the chart for my own edification.

I had already started learning this piece in anticipation of the inevitable requests which will crop up when the guitar is completed.

I will say in all humility that I DO play a Mean Pinball . . . B-A-D-E (and all that sus4 jazz)
I will also say that I DON'T play a mean guitar . . . more like B-A-D.

I've been learning from You-tube Guitar Lessons 365 which also seems correct to me?

By the time the project is finished I should be able to play a fair semblance of it (I hope)

maxaxe
24-11-2013, 12:30 PM
Quick update:

More drafting work to ascertain fit of the various components etc (see pic)
Much better to f--- up on paper than on the real deal.
So far I've spent more time brainstorming and nutting things out than making any tangible progress.

This will change soon (he said)












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maxaxe
25-11-2013, 09:58 AM
Onwards:

The cigar box style body gluing . . .














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maxaxe
29-11-2013, 10:02 AM
A couple more steps forward:

(Pic 1) Built the "core" to which the neck & bridge will be anchored. This is made up from from solid aged pine, glued & screwed.

(Pic 2) The part where luthiers & Pitbull builders are bound to say "WTF?"
The "core" aligned & setting into place in the body before getting screwed from behind (he he)
This hideous arrangement will be mostly concealed by the "playfield" at a later stage of construction.

More soon . . .




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lawry
29-11-2013, 10:17 AM
This is just insane. Might have to change your name to Mad Maxaxe.

GlennGP
29-11-2013, 11:03 AM
I'm with you Max - similar to the oak block at the core of Brian May's Red Special.

maxaxe
02-12-2013, 11:27 AM
How to spend a Sunday literally shredding a guitar . . .

As can be seen, I've prefit & cut the speaker holes, the flipper button holes and a recess hole in one side for the effects control plate and the other side for the input/output jack plate.
The neck has copped a routing all the way down the back to accommodate the wiring pair for the headstock LEDs.

I took heed of the consensual advice from our wizards on here and bought some Timbermate to back fill with - it's great stuff and cleans up with water, a real bonus - thanks dudes! After the rout channel filling is sanded back this will all be hidden under paint matching the body.

Still madly doodling around with artwork/graphics ideas behind the scenes . . .









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maxaxe
08-12-2013, 09:11 AM
First fit-up:

Neck with built-up "wedgeheadstock" positioned, speakers in place, effects module (I/O actuated by left flipper button), amp module (I/O/OD actuated by right flipper button), shooter rod (works but no function) and power in/signal out jackplate fitted.

Still much to do . . . . .










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DanMade
08-12-2013, 10:54 AM
Holy cow. This things really coming along.
I didn't realize you were putting in an amp sim and effects unit. This is going to be an everything but the kitchen sink build.

Now I wonder if somehow you could make the shooter rod actuate a whammy bar. Just a thought.

lawry
09-12-2013, 10:14 AM
This is getting more insane each time you post an update. It is so cool.

maxaxe
09-12-2013, 11:02 AM
Hey Dan, Cool idea.

I reckon it would be feasible to operate a whammy system from the shooter rod. After all, they work by simple leverage. A suitable linkage wouldn't be too difficult to make up.
However, I can't do it at this stage as the axe is already set up to take a Badass bridge.

Below is an early stage pic of the "wedgeheadstock" clearly showing the lateral dowels running through it as suggested by DB for my Stealth project headstock.

Mad Max






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jarrod
09-12-2013, 11:21 AM
Geeze max this things insane . Pete Townsend would have loved to have played it in the song Pinball Wizard

wokkaboy
10-12-2013, 01:22 AM
looks insane Max, love the concept and how its turning out. Whats all the circuitry will that run flashing lights ? assume the electronics near the blue button are for powering the speakers ? wedgestock looks amazing. This project will be one of a kind, that's for sure !

lawry
10-12-2013, 05:18 AM
Hey Max. How much d'ya reckon it'll weigh in the end? You may need to play it on a stand like Yngwie.

maxaxe
11-12-2013, 11:02 AM
Wokka@ Circuitry -

Flashing LED lamps will be run from incoming 9VDC via a simple programmable chaser unit coming from U.S.A. The amp & effects will of course be powered from the common 9VDC source.
The little board near the further blue button on the right is just a jackplate with a 9v power in socket and an odd looking, but standard guitar output socket on it.
The tan coloured PCB sitting below the bridge mount is a 9VDC 3WRMS amplifier which will indeed power the two speakers which have matched impedance.
Clear as mud to me 8O

Lawry@ Weight -

Because she's hollow and the electronics are very light, I'm hoping the whole deal won't weigh much more than a Strat or similar. Will do a comparative weigh up soon.
And because I don't go gigging, I suppose I can play sitting or just leave the bastard hanging on the wall :?

DanMade
11-12-2013, 11:11 AM
You could always put it on a stand and set it up for slide.

maxaxe
14-12-2013, 09:55 AM
Just a small update:

Artwork for the "backglass" in the wedgestock plagiarised from a SOCIETY6 poster/shirt of Pete Townshend performing Tommy.
I Photoshopped their cool graphic to create what I hope will be suitable for my purposes.
Note that the score reel says 1969 - the year The Who released Tommy.
Also note the largish "TILT" sign which will be backlit by a LED on a tilt actuated switch.




http://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/k29kf-PBW-Glass.jpg

pablopepper
14-12-2013, 12:00 PM
Very cool design. How are you going to print it?

gavinturner
14-12-2013, 07:36 PM
Love it! That design would also make a great vinyl wrap for a tele!

Cheers,
Gav.

lawry
14-12-2013, 10:54 PM
I don't want to sidetrack this thread but I'm curious about a comment you made above Gav. Tell me more about this vinyl wrap thingy. Never heard of it, but I take it that you can lay a design over the body or such like.

gavinturner
14-12-2013, 11:05 PM
Never tried it but Andy could probably tell us more. It's kinda like they do for cars and such. Just a big vinyl decal to put whatever design you want over your guitar body..

Cheers,
Gav.

pablopepper
14-12-2013, 11:17 PM
@Lawry
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4hUe62hEfk

lawry
15-12-2013, 01:06 AM
Thanks for the link Pablo. Looks cool. I was particularly amazed by the scalpel wielding! Reminds me of someone else on the forum :?

maxaxe
15-12-2013, 06:00 AM
Pablo @ Very cool design. How are you going to print it? [/quote]

Because the image will be under 1mm of clear lexan sheet with the edges under a 3.5mm MDF escutcheon, it's just printed onto matt photo paper. The whole thing is simply a sandwich (see pic)

Whoo Hoo - that vinyl wrap stuff is something else! I'd be fascinated to see if anyone has a go at doing it 8O
Great video clip BTW.
http://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/q5nt2-PW-3-003.JPG

Brendan
16-12-2013, 07:11 AM
Max - looking great. This is going to be one sick guitar!

johnnychronic
16-12-2013, 01:29 PM
This is going to be an amazing Guitar/ Art/ Engineering/ Headtrip. You're a brilliant luthier.

maxaxe
23-12-2013, 09:05 AM
More kind words - thank you guys . . . I will be getting a swollen head(stock) oops, already got a swollen headstock on this job :|

Speaking of which, the "sandwich" head is now sprayed white. Next will be some stencilled artwork around the "backglass" then a clear satin urethane finish over the whole deal. Tests show this will result in a slighlty off white/yellowed effect which is just what I'm after.

Pics should explain better than words I hope.

Chrome humbucker cover just turned up - yay.
Also fabricated back cover for the head from ally plate(pic)
Just waiting on a set of 3L/3R big knobbed chrome machines.
All hardware will be chrome to be in keeping with the 70's era of pinball furniture.




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maxaxe
31-12-2013, 11:35 AM
Rolling along . . . .

Pic 1:

I Managed to get the desired "speckle" effect on the white paint which is typical of pinballs of the 70's era. The body will get the same treatment.
Stencilled/sprayed on lightning bolt/plectrum design around front of headstock.
Masked off frets and applied first coat of urethane clear over the whole schmeer.
Printed up pinny style position markers on white waterslide film - the plan is to sand back their sections, slide 'em on & urethane over, then clear urethane the whole bloody neck again.

Pic 2:

A more speccy shot of speccle :P

Pic 3:

Playfield cut and in place. I've used ply with a bit of grain 'cos some areas (e.g. the shooter lane)
will remain visible, as per the real older style playfields.


Still have loads to do . . .




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Brendan
31-12-2013, 11:48 AM
Stunned - can't say anything but WOW.

Gavin1393
31-12-2013, 01:32 PM
Go Max!!!!!

gavinturner
01-01-2014, 08:42 PM
Max the speckle and lightning bolts look awesome. I'm blown away!

Cheers,
Gav.

maxaxe
05-01-2014, 04:16 AM
Update:

Struck a snag :(
The black position dots on the f/b showed through the white waterslide decals - fnyuck!
Rather than drill out the dots & backfill, I have reprinted onto thin white photo paper. I'm building this up with clear urethane and carefully sanding back 'til the board is smooth. If this fails, I 'spose it will beback to plan A.

Did a weigh up :|

Yes, it will be a heavy rocker . . . put all the PW gear on the kitchen scale and it'll be about 1.5 pounds or 0.7Kg heavier than my ESP MH50.

Decided sigle p/u will be chrome HB as per SG's (I am encouraged in this by the JR's that have been built here)

Coupla pics:

1. Neck decals on
2. Aluminium playfield apron awaiting artwork




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stan
06-01-2014, 09:53 AM
max, you have totally lost the plot - this is truely mad - I love it!

GlennGP
07-01-2014, 08:33 AM
Out. Fricking. Rageous!

maxaxe
11-01-2014, 08:24 AM
OK. The (lost) plot thickens . . .

Pic 1: Neck completed at long last. LED's for "TILT" wired & tested.
Pic 2: Glad to see the back of it ;)
Pic 3: Apron artwork done. Final playfield design/art happening now.

Why did I ever start this?
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lawry
11-01-2014, 08:57 AM
Hey Max.
You ask why did you ever start this? Because it's got to be the coolest and weirdest guitar project ever. Don't stop now, I'm loving it!
Cheers

adam
11-01-2014, 09:35 AM
Max, I am deadly serious, people are going to be talking about this thread for years to come. I actually caught myself thinking about this build at work. Please, do not rush this. Take your time. And finally, I'm sure I speak for everyone following this thread, please update us, with photos, at every step, no matter how trivial.

Brendan
11-01-2014, 11:42 AM
I think we need to change your handle to Mad Max - not Max Axe... I'm with Adam - I think this will be a guitar that turns up on a range of websites as a crazy cool axe!

stan
16-01-2014, 05:09 AM
/<\\/p>[]<\\/p>/Quote from adam on January 10, 2014, 18:35
Max, I am deadly serious, people are going to be talking about this thread for years to come. I actually caught myself thinking about this build at work. Please, do not rush this. Take your time. And finally, I'm sure I speak for everyone following this thread, please update us, with photos, at every step, no matter how trivial.


YES, THIS !!!

Best Themed Guitar Ever !!!!

maxaxe
22-01-2014, 11:47 AM
I am quite chuffed by all the encouragement and kind words from you guys, especially Adam.
So thanks again, as it really does help keep up the enthusiasm :D

Ordered the 16 LED chaser unit from the U.S. today, it boasts multi sequences & speed control - should add plenty of pizazz to the lighting setup.

Started boring/routing the "playfield" and below is a pic of a preliminary mock-up.
Looks awfully rough, but (trust me) it will all come out in the wash . . .






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Bass Guy
22-01-2014, 02:04 PM
Truly astonishing work. A classic in the making!

wokkaboy
23-01-2014, 12:05 AM
yes agreed with everyone's comments, Max this project is off the chain. Never seen anything like it. This will be a treasured axe once its finished ! You will have to post a video with all the lights flashing and gizmo's in action !

lawry
05-02-2014, 09:25 AM
Hey Max. You got any updates on this insanity?

maxaxe
08-02-2014, 09:15 AM
OK Lawry, here we go:

I've been busy making all the fiddly parts which will populate the playfield e.g. pop bumpers, drop target bank, standup target, kickout saucer, wire guides, lane guide, plastics and their posts, lighting inserts, rebound unit etc. (Pinheads will dig all this shit)
Also got stuck into the paintwork at long last, still some to do, then the black linework goes on by hand, followed by the printed artwork - some on transparencies, some opaque.
Yet to be built will be a spinner, gate, rebound mount, saddle & the upper arch guides all from sheet ally.
I reckon about 80% of this phase is done.
The sharp-eyed amongst you might spot a roll of copper sheathing, which will be applied flat under the playfield. With all the electronics & switching, I reckon it will be essential.

Next phase will be the LED lighting (the chaser control kit just turned up today as it happens, yippee!)

PIc 1: All the bits ready to go . . .
Pic 2: Decal sheets complete with stuff ups.

P.S. my psychiatrist is making a fortune out of me :(




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Brendan
08-02-2014, 02:34 PM
Max - lack of responses for a couple of hours is that you've totally stunned everyone... This is a blinder of a build!

Bass Guy
08-02-2014, 10:50 PM
It's a sensation!

Another Tommy pun...

This build is remarkable, and a testament to your perseverance.

lawry
08-02-2014, 11:30 PM
Yep. I think Brendan is right. What can you say about a build like this? Gotta be one of the coolest, weirdest, freakiest (and a lot of other 'est' words) projects in the history of guitar building.
You are a very patient person!

dingobass
08-02-2014, 11:42 PM
Unbeleivable... one really dumb question, is this going to be a functioning Pinnie as well? That would be the wildest Guitar ever built...

WeirdBits
09-02-2014, 12:48 AM
So much detail, amazing!

wokkaboy
09-02-2014, 01:57 AM
super cool build Max, this is one of the most bizaar axes I've ever seen, pity it won't be eligible for GOTM because it would win hands down !

maxaxe
09-02-2014, 08:34 AM
/<\\/p>[]<\\/p>/Quote from dingobass on February 8, 2014, 08:42
Unbeleivable... one really dumb question, is this going to be a functioning Pinnie as well? That would be the wildest Guitar ever built...

Hi DB

Unfortunately it won't be a working pinball.
Have a look inside a real machine if you get a chance - even a simplified version would be beyond my capabilities.
Plus the already burdensome weight would become unbearable. Also with all the coils, contacts etc the RF interference would be atrocious too.
So I've settled for a few "pseudo working" cabinet parts & flashing lights to "look the part".

More soon . . .

stan
10-02-2014, 09:18 AM
simply outstanding Max!

maxaxe
15-02-2014, 09:44 AM
Gotta thank all you guys again for your words of encouragement.

A wee bit more done now on the faux playfield:
Outline work finished, lamp inserts inserted & decals applied.
It's at the stage of the build now where all the really fun stuff has started happening.
It's also looking pretty close to what I pictured when I first sat down at the old drawing board, with a few revisions along the way.

More soon . . .

http://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/6axnb-PF-10-004.JPG

maxaxe
24-02-2014, 07:12 AM
Coming together finally, at least the playfield is 96% finished, just waiting on some special screws.
One day soon (I hope) I'll get around to the actual guitar part of this build :?

In the interim, the first pic below shows the underside of the PF with all the controlled lamp brackets and their LEDs installed. Still waiting on some diffuse warm white LEDs to do the general illumination under the plastics.
Also plastered on some copper shielding for the PUP area which I hope will suffice.

Second pic shows progress on the upper PF which I am pretty happy with. I'm extra pleased with the "smashed mirror" spinner at the upper left. Also you can clearly see the lower inserts spell B-L-I-N-D the top left group of 4 naturally spell "deaf" and the right "dumb".
The 4 drop targets will get slotted in in front of the "smashed" Union Jack at a later stage.

Next phase will be wiring up the lighting and audio circuitry with some help from my electronics wiz mate Anthony.

More soonish . . .






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adam
24-02-2014, 07:44 AM
This build is just so incredible to watch I am lost for words. Max, when this is done, I would love to come over with my video camera and shoot a demo of the guitar and get you to talk us through this build and what you do for a living. I'm sure I speak for everyone on here when I say I want to get a look inside your lair.

stan
24-02-2014, 07:52 AM
OH WOW, MAX, THIS IS JUST TOO AWESOME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

lawry
24-02-2014, 08:05 AM
This is still insane, Max. And I'd forgotten about the guitar bit too. This stuff as a guitar is even more insane. Like Adam says, gotta see a vid of it.

gavinturner
24-02-2014, 12:57 PM
The playing field is jaw-droppingly awesome Max. I'm on the edge of my seat waiting for updates! And to think this thing will be a working axe in addition to all this awesomeness! Can't wait. Adam's behind the scenes doco is a must watch.

cheers,
Gav.

maxaxe
27-02-2014, 07:12 AM
Thanks again everybody, I'm amazed at all the interest shown in this oddball project.
With Adam now offering to personally do a video of it I'm a bit over awed, not to say flattered :D

Yes Adam, I would be more than happy for you to do a video thing when the job's complete, only snag is I'm a less than ordinary guitar player & rather shy about it.

I'm hoping this effort will be completed by the end of March. (Then, armed with GAS, I can start building something a bit more conventional)

wokkaboy
27-02-2014, 07:54 AM
awesome build Max, doubt anyone has attempted to build anything this bizaar and cool.
Look forward to the final results.
I'd love to come to the video shoot if possible and see this wicked axe in the flesh.

Keep us posted on the build diary when its happening !

adam
27-02-2014, 08:24 AM
No worries Max, I'm an ordinary guitar player who is not shy about it. I'm looking forward to seeing your lair and getting to know some of your history. Give me a shout when its done. And whatever you do, don't rush it.

Jack_Wolfe
05-03-2014, 04:03 PM
Quote from maxaxe on February 26, 2014, 16:12
Thanks again everybody, I'm amazed at all the interest shown in this oddball project.
With Adam now offering to personally do a video of it I'm a bit over awed, not to say flattered :D

Yes Adam, I would be more than happy for you to do a video thing when the job's complete, only snag is I'm a less than ordinary guitar player & rather shy about it.

I'm hoping this effort will be completed by the end of March. (Then, armed with GAS, I can start building something a bit more conventional)



Odd ball? Naa you're not round enough Maximus.
I've been looking up programming for ya, looks simple enough just need the read write tools. and an example piece of code to pull apart.

johnnychronic
06-03-2014, 04:03 AM
All the times looking at your progress I've thought of it as large because of the size of flippers and bumpers but, today while studying the last picture you took, I think I'm starting to see the dimensions. Is it a regular size electric or like an acoustic?

maxaxe
06-03-2014, 11:57 AM
@ Jack Wolfe: Thanks heaps for researching - I will catch up with you soon to discuss the finer points.

@ Johnnychronic: The idea was to keep the "cigar box" body about the same dimensions as an electric.
It's 405H x 300W x 80D or 16" x 12" x 3 1/4" so within the realms, albeit much deeper. All playfield parts are scratch built & scaled down to fit (except the old style small flippers) External hardware like the shooter, buttons etc. are the real thing.

Tiny update: Small parcel of LEDs needed to finsh the job turned up today from waaay up North, so no excuses for not getting on with the job . . .

maxaxe
17-03-2014, 07:41 AM
Slowly onwards . . . .

The LED lightshow is now completely wired & working. I am over the moon with the overall effect.
In the pic below you can see the wiring harness & the chaser unit etc.
Next phases will be the audio set up and then FINALLY fitting up the actual axe bits - neck, bridge etc. etc. you dudes all know the drill :|



http://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/4622d-PFEL-001.JPG

lawry
17-03-2014, 08:12 AM
Every time you post an update on this I get more blown away Max. I wish I lIved close enough to you to check it out in the flesh.
It's still insane, you know!

adam
17-03-2014, 08:22 AM
Hey Brendan... can you please do a wiring diagram for this, thanks mate. :-)

Brendan
17-03-2014, 10:24 AM
No worries Ads - you want it all on an A4? How good are your glasses? :). Genius Max!

Gavin1393
17-03-2014, 11:56 AM
/<\\/p>[]<\\/p>/Quote from adam on March 16, 2014, 17:22
Hey Brendan... can you please do a wiring diagram for this, thanks mate. :-)
I ain't checking this one for you! Send it to DB!

stan
18-03-2014, 02:44 AM
great progress!

Wiring diagram? Going to offer this as a kit Ads?

I think it is wiring level - Genius

Brendan
18-03-2014, 01:34 PM
Quote from stan on March 17, 2014, 11:44
I think it is wiring level - Genius
Nope - "Mad Doctor"

dingobass
18-03-2014, 01:41 PM
my brain just melted.....

Fretworn
19-03-2014, 12:48 AM
Quote from stan on March 17, 2014, 11:44

I think it is wiring level - Genius

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIPr23xyoZg

maxaxe
30-03-2014, 09:58 AM
That Wile E. Coyote clip is piss funny :D
I can identify with some of his brilliant schemes . . .

Anyhow, the PW saga continues with a "dress rehearsal" fit up today (see pics)

As expected, the neck inclination needs adjustment. I'll do this by planing the neck heel slightly until the angle is right. Otherwise, the neck is bolted on nice & perpendicular/centred to the bridge - yay.

Still some more wiring & switch mods to do for the audio setup. Still some minor toys to add. Still need to complete the "cap" which is clear acrylic sheet trimmed with ally siderails.

The end is nigh . . . . .




http://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/lzj9z-Fit-Up-1-006.JPG
http://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/rd9ed-Fit-Up-1-008.JPG

dingobass
30-03-2014, 10:11 AM
O.M.G.
Maxie, you never cease to amaze and amuse :)

That is without doubt the most whackiest and out there Guitar ever built!

Cant wait for the video of her in action :)... it is going to go viral!

glenno3228
30-03-2014, 12:44 PM
/<\\/p>[]<\\/p>/Quote from maxaxe on March 29, 2014, 18:58
That Wile E. Coyote clip is piss funny :D
I can identify with some of his brilliant schemes . . .

Anyhow, the PW saga continues with a "dress rehearsal" fit up today (see pics)

As expected, the neck inclination needs adjustment. I'll do this by planing the neck heel slightly until the angle is right. Otherwise, the neck is bolted on nice & perpendicular/centred to the bridge - yay.

Still some more wiring & switch mods to do for the audio setup. Still some minor toys to add. Still need to complete the "cap" which is clear acrylic sheet trimmed with ally siderails.

The end is nigh . . . . .




http://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/lzj9z-Fit-Up-1-006.JPG
http://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/rd9ed-Fit-Up-1-008.JPG

Well if this doesn't win GOTM for sheer audacity and creativeness then what hope do the mere mortals amongst us have?

Brilliance! 8O

lawry
30-03-2014, 11:01 PM
Max. It's astounding. I can't believe how pinball-ish it is. It reminds me of my misspent youth. The way you have incorporated the pickup is genius also. I think DB has hit the hammer on the head in that it will definitely go viral. And why shouldn't it? What a build, man!

gavinturner
31-03-2014, 12:25 AM
Superb Max. This is a work of art. Can't wait to see her play with lights and all! What an amazing stage presence it would have!

cheers,
Gav.

Fretworn
31-03-2014, 05:32 AM
Loving it!

ihasmario
31-03-2014, 06:41 AM
Great ambition with a superb result...

pablopepper
31-03-2014, 07:04 AM
So good Max! Please tell me you're going to have a ball floating around in there.

johnnychronic
31-03-2014, 12:00 PM
OOOh YEAH!
This is stunning MAX, I know you're not finished but, I hope you've planned to put some artwork on the sides too, traditional stencil stuff.

Scott J.
01-04-2014, 07:42 AM
It might be (way) out there, Max ... and it certainly is unique!

... but only one word really springs to mind ... WOW!

Super Cool? - Absolutely!

jarrod
01-04-2014, 08:33 AM
I don't know what else to ad man except you crazy bastard you . Only a man walking the line of genius and mental could come up with such an amazing thing. Holy crap!!!!!!

Fretworn
02-04-2014, 01:10 AM
I suppose this is a silly question, but is there a pickup there somewhere?

stan
02-04-2014, 01:50 AM
there are not the right words for this - it's just too clever, too amazing and too cool

maxaxe
02-04-2014, 09:25 AM
Appreciating the comments & feedback from you guys - thanks again.

@ FW: Single bridge HB fitted in the clear acrylic cap with a clear surround (see pic)
Red arrows show the bridge post holes & the "potholes" for vol/tone control.
Ally rails & lockdown bar still need finish & buffing before fitting up.

@ PP: At this stage I'm still trying to find a fake lightweight silver ball of the right dia.
Real balls are solid steel - thus too heavy.

@ JC: Can't decide on wether to do side art stencil work yet. Worried it might look
a bit too busy with all the other stuff going on?





http://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/2ms38-Cap-001.JPG

johnnychronic
03-04-2014, 12:32 PM
You should (my opinion) using white as one of three colours like these:
http://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/76242-DSCF1958.JPG
http://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/1tbnx-Liberty_Bell_2009_003.jpg
http://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/xnt27-wizard1.jpg

maxaxe
10-04-2014, 02:11 AM
You should (my opinion) using white as one of three colours like these:

Good idea JC it's under consideration . . .

Anyhow, here's what may be the last progress report before Adam does the video with all the flashing lights & bells & whistles etc.

Pic 1. More wiring - Green arrow #1 is an under cabinet switch to isolate the lighting system.
" " #2 is I/O for the effects module to its left (actuates by START button)
" " #3 is I/O for overdrive in amp (actuates by flipper button)

Pic 2. Effects module control panel in situ.
Pic 4. 9 VDC inlet & standard mono outlet panel in situ.



Continued ....................




http://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/83x1j-wiring-004.JPG
http://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/1p6p9-wiring-006.JPG
http://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/696as-wiring-007.JPG

maxaxe
10-04-2014, 02:19 AM
Pic 4. Close up the front end w/- shooter etc.
Pic 5. Long shafted 500K pots fitted in apron (tone/vol)
Pic 6. Insurance: apron is ally so I bunged on some fibre insulation under the tags.








http://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/tzmhs-wiring-011.JPG
http://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/01jz1-wiring-013.JPG
http://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/y0x86-wiring-019.JPG

wokkaboy
10-04-2014, 02:27 AM
wow Max that is totally off the chain, are most of these parts actually off a pinball machine ?
I can't wait to see the finished product and the video now, hope this gets posted all over PBG facebook page although its not a Pitbull build it is so out there !

pablopepper
10-04-2014, 02:34 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3BNz-zKOKM

Brendan
25-04-2014, 03:18 AM
Max,
Just saw this being released (maybe Justin is watching your build :) ).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PSPsmqFhE4

maxaxe
25-04-2014, 11:11 AM
That's a very serendipitous find Brendan :) Wish I could play it as well as he does. I'm still struggling with some of the chord shapes, let alone strums & technique.
Might have to employ a "ghost player" when we do the upcoming video.

In the meantime, I've had to cut another hole in the body (see pic) for practical reasons, mainly the need to access the mini amp (currently awaiting suitable pot knobs) Think I'd better clean up the edges of it & the one next to it.

I also plan to make a second clear interchangeable "cap" complete with a single coil neck PUP. This will be for aesthetics & to doodle 'round with a mellower sound.

Completion is slowly rolling to a conclusion, but no more will be revealed until Adam & I do the vid 8-)


http://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/04g6k-hole-001.JPG

stan
25-04-2014, 10:00 PM
as cool as it gets Max, cant wait

maxaxe
08-05-2014, 09:03 AM
Got bogged down lately with other stuff including restoring a real pinball for a mate, but now it's back to the guitar . . .
Fiddled around shielding the chaser, amp & effects (in progress) unit today. PITA but essential to (hopefully) eliminate noise.
Used a combination of very thin aluminium plate & good ol' copper foil.

http://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/9z572-Shield-1.JPG
http://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/bqg8u-Shield-2.JPG
http://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/6s6t2-Shield-3.JPG

dingobass
08-05-2014, 09:58 AM
Kewl! :)

DanMade
08-05-2014, 10:18 AM
Ooooh, it's getting closer to being finished.

wokkaboy
08-05-2014, 10:24 AM
great stuff Max, I think the entire forum are waiting to see this beast finished

barrylicious
08-05-2014, 11:01 AM
Wow. Speechless. You are better then macguyver

lawry
08-05-2014, 11:13 AM
You are such a tease. You keep leaking little snippets every few weeks then keep us hanging on again. I am sooo looking forward to seeing the thing live!

lawry
19-05-2014, 07:14 AM
Bump, Max. BUMP!

lawry
07-06-2014, 08:29 AM
/<\\/p>[]<\\/p>/Quote from lawry on May 18, 2014, 16:14
Bump, Max. BUMP!

Yeah, what Lawry said. Oh, that's me.

You had any time to nibble at this again? So keen to see it live.

maxaxe
07-06-2014, 09:25 AM
Hi Lawry

Yeah, my electronics guru mate Anthony & I completed the wiring today as it happens.
I seem to have eradicated virtually all of the noise with the shielding work (now earthed) as per previous post.
Everything works - at least in test mode :?
Been lots of interruptions lately, so it's great to get back back into it again.
I hope to get stuck into the "luthy" work straight away . . .

lawry
07-06-2014, 09:42 AM
That's excellent that you got the noise out, especially considering how much you've got going on in there. Thanks for posting, mate. Really keen to keep abreast I this.

bargeloobs
07-06-2014, 08:16 PM
/<\\/p>[]<\\/p>/Quote from lawry on June 6, 2014, 18:42
That's excellent that you got the noise out, especially considering how much you've got going on in there. Thanks for posting, mate. Really keen to keep abreast I this.

Second that Lozza, so bloody clever!

maxaxe
14-07-2014, 10:39 AM
Following MORE delays, another update/teaser.

Cut a new clear acrylic cap and fitted a single chrome lipstick pickup at the mid-position.
The big 'bucker was blocking too much view of the playfield goodies.
Went midpoint for aesthetics and to (hopefully) reduce the jangly sound of a single coil at the bridge.
The lippy is also very slim and doesn't have a "triangular" base plate like on say, a Tele chrome PUP which would be visible.

Re-shimmed the neck "socket" and I'm almost sure that the neck incidence is correct now.

The f***ing wraparound bridge decided to lean over under string tension.
The adjuster threads were too sloppy and the two "saddle" locaters likewise - cheap shit.
Help is on its way.

The good news: after the latest fit-up the electronics ALL check out OK with very little noise being generated.

If ya want pics, y'all will have to wait for the ballbuster movie :P

stan
14-07-2014, 07:18 PM
Great progress max, good to hear it's still moving ahead. Good idea with the pickups, now we need pics!!

wokkaboy
15-07-2014, 12:54 AM
good stuff Max, like the rest of the forum we are all eagerly awaiting to see the finished product and a demo video !

lawry
16-07-2014, 11:26 AM
There's going to be a movie?!
Any chance of a trailer teaser?

lawry
16-08-2014, 08:32 AM
Hey Max. You got any update on this 'bigger than Ben Hur' build? Anything at all to sate my curiosity would be good!

maxaxe
18-08-2014, 08:04 AM
OK Lawry, here's a mini update:

Solved the bridge problem with heavy engineering ie. fabricated & installed a solid "base plate" (see pic) with slightly negative canted retainer holes. Triple long screws into the wood. Now the bridge sits up nice and straight under tension.
Now, barring any more clusterf**ks we're on the home straight.

Might even drag it along to the 2nd Anni . . .


http://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/u1e15-bridge-002.JPG

stan
18-08-2014, 08:59 AM
awesome!

wokkaboy
20-08-2014, 07:45 AM
great stuff Max, glad you're on the home stretch.
Would be awesome if you did bring it to the 2nd birthday party Saturday, I'll be there !

Timsan
20-08-2014, 08:55 PM
This is one of those builds that makes me think of the following quote:

“Those who say it can't be done should get out of the way of those that are already doing it"

Love your work, Max!

wokkaboy
25-08-2014, 12:47 AM
here's a quick video of the beast at PBG's 2nd birthday party lastnight, this thing is twice as amazing as it looks in the video !
well done Max you blew everyone away with this unique super cool build

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSdGT2cyUBU

Fretworn
26-08-2014, 01:50 AM
So it's playable now, or was this just a mock up?

maxaxe
26-08-2014, 09:04 AM
Q: Fretty

I fitted her up quickly, did a lightning tune up (not intoned) bunged her in a cardboard box & fronted up with it. (What a brilliant PBG party it was too!)
Just shaved down the oregon core bridge mount by 3/16" (see pic)
The action was Waaaay too high 'cos I didn't allow for the thickness of the 3.5 mm s/s base plate which I added atop it . . . shit.
Still need to sort a little teething trouble on the audio systems while she's opened up.

So bloody close now . . . . . . . .

maxaxe
26-08-2014, 09:13 AM
Pic:
http://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/q6vx4-bridge-002.JPG

wokkaboy
27-08-2014, 12:21 AM
looks far too complicated for me Max, look at all those wires and circuitry !

bargeloobs
28-08-2014, 08:54 PM
Unbelievable job Max, really interested to hear this piece of art in action.

Blowen
04-01-2015, 08:25 AM
This is insane, truly unique, love it!!

Rob L
04-01-2015, 08:30 AM
This is guitar insanity at it's most outrageous and very best! This has got to one of the coolest things I have ever seen.
All you need now is Elton John's 3 foot pinball boots. :D
When's the matching pinball amp coming?!

blinddrew
21-06-2020, 10:00 PM
7 or 8 years on and this build is still out of this world!

JohnH
22-06-2020, 11:39 AM
I can't believe I've never seen this thread before!