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keloooe
26-07-2013, 09:42 PM
Hey guys, my girlfriend's birthday is in December, and she moved here from Texas last year, so I'm thinking of doing an ST-1 with the American flag as the body design with Wudtone, but how can I do that? I need to get 50 stars done, and 13 stripes..... I'm really concerned about the stripes, I might get a hole drilled and fill it up???

Also, How can I do the pickguard? I want to have the pickguard with the same design, is there a blue tortiseshell/pearloid?

Gavin1393
26-07-2013, 10:25 PM
Pest, the best way to do this would be with a large decal....

phloggy
26-07-2013, 11:58 PM
If you want an easy out, just do the Texas flag. Texans eat that stuff up. (Based on my experience with Texans, which is pretty much just from TV and movies.)

http://www.50states.com/flag/image/nunst070.gif

Andyport
27-07-2013, 01:42 AM
If you are after the American flag, I would suggest visiting your local sign shop and getting a price on a digitally printed decal, using the same media they print vehicle wrap signs on.
You could then have the body face completely wrapped with a decal. The wrapping vinyl is durable, very thin and pliable, and conforms to contours extremely well. There is a definite art to applying them though, which really only comes with experience, but they could certainly help you out with that.

keloooe
27-07-2013, 02:16 AM
thanks for the advice guys, im probably going to try and use Wudtone and using the Texas flag on scrap wood, and I'll try a massive decal if it doesnt work, I might even use a dremel to get a hole for the star, and use a painted scrap piece painted white!

Fretworn
27-07-2013, 02:18 AM
http://www.greasygroove.com/search.php?pg=1&stext=patriot&scat=44&stype=exact&nobox=true

keloooe
27-07-2013, 04:58 AM
Hmmm... I found they have the 3 colours needed for the guard, can I use superglue to get them together into one guard?

Andyport
27-07-2013, 05:32 AM
Use wudtone for the body, cover the guard with a flag decal and trim to shape with a craft knife.
Should look good!!

pablopepper
27-07-2013, 05:35 AM
You could get a clear pickguard and paint on the inside of it using a paper template.

Scott J.
27-07-2013, 06:20 AM
I spent 6 months in Texas several years ago and found that they're actually prouder of being Texan than they are of being American, as shown by often seen "bumper sticker" on many of the "pick-ups" (utes) ... "American by birth but Texan by the grace of God!" ... :-D

... and despite the flack they get from the rest of those "damn Yankees", found them to be by far the MOST friendly bunch out of all the "lower 48" states (and I'm definitely NOT an americanophile!) ... they're sort of like Aussie's with an accent who drive on the wrong side of the road! :-D

Definitely go with the Texas flag!

P.S. check out any "Car Wrap" graphic places in your area - they're doing some very high-qual stuff these days (great detail in the graphics, long lasting and getting quite cheap too) and they're designed to wrap nicely around curves and bends

keloooe
27-07-2013, 07:14 AM
Hmmm... now i can't find any white, red or blue vinyl....

dingobass
27-07-2013, 08:45 AM
Pest, go with the ready made decal idea.
Simple, accurate and above all, easy!

I would not even think about trying to do it with Wudtone.
Practically impossible to get straight, clean lines where the colours join....

Go with the Texan Flag, as your Gal would no doubt say Viva Tejas!

keloooe
27-07-2013, 08:50 AM
DB, what if I get the star cut out and use a separate piece of wood with white, then glue it into the slot?

dingobass
27-07-2013, 08:53 AM
Wow.... That would entail some serious wood working tools and a whole mess of patience....
Personally, I would just go for the whole body decal idea.
It would look freaking amazing!

keloooe
27-07-2013, 08:55 AM
Ok then, decal or even vinyl it is!
But I still can't find anything online (vinyl [red blue and white] or any decal makers...)

dingobass
27-07-2013, 09:04 AM
Try looking under sign writers, I am sure you will find some one in Melbs that does vynyl..... whoops, a slight Chrissy Amphlett moment there....Vinyl signs ect...

Scott J.
27-07-2013, 10:22 AM
In Melbourne? ... you might try companies such as these guys who do custom printed and cut vinyl wraps for vehicles (hot graphics, advertising, etc) ...

http://www.autopersona.com.au/

http://www.letragrafic.com.au/

Analyst69
27-07-2013, 11:44 AM
Following the Texas Flag theme you could print a decal for the headstock using this...
It is one of the Texas Revolution Flags that seems to still be popular now (seen a few Texans on telly wearing hats with it printed on)...
http://pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/73lvu-800px-Texas_Flag_Come_and_Take_It_svg.png

keloooe
28-07-2013, 01:15 AM
Hey DB, can't I layer the Wudtone if it bleeds?
Like if I do the red one day, leave it to cure then do the red so it site on top? or will I have to sand the blue back to get an even finish?
Or I could break DB's Law #19349 *cough* SM Nitro *cough*

WeirdBits
04-08-2013, 04:48 AM
Mow a few lawns, save some money, and you could maybe try a pre-made option (http://www.allparts.com/PG-0552-066-American-Flag-Stratocaster-Pickguard_p_2602.html)... not cheap, but it would be a simple solution that would probably look great on an all white body

The Guitar Garage (http://www.adirondackguitar.com/pickguards/strat.htm) also sells flag pickguards that may be suitable, like these:

http://shop.coloriffic.com/images/1202673240402-1603149243.jpeg
http://shop.coloriffic.com/images/12001080798111487291980.jpeg

I'm sure with a bit of searching you'll be able to find other pre-made options, if you decide to go that route.

pablopepper
04-08-2013, 12:49 PM
Be aware, laying vinyl is very tricky. Because it's so thin and stretchy, every micro speck of dust shows under it and if you don't line up your edges perfectly the overlap will be pretty obvious. I lay vinyl a few times a week at work and it's not something I'd want to do.

I say mask and spray for the best results. Probably the easiest too.

Brendan
04-08-2013, 01:57 PM
Looking at the Texan Flag - go with a white base, then it's mask and spray blue and red. The results on Gavin and Eben's BC-1 look spectacular and show it can be done...

keloooe
24-08-2013, 12:43 AM
Hey guys, how can I make the pickguard have a matching design? Like have the part of the flag that is covered by the guard to have the pattern?

pablopepper
24-08-2013, 01:32 AM
Get a clear pickguard, spray the back.

keloooe
24-08-2013, 02:37 AM
Hey Pablo, I'm going to use a waterbase finish, not Ni... Nit... Nitr... Ok, I'm off to DB's naughty corner!
Will a waterbase finish from StewMac work? Can I spray the red and blue to a white guard (like the one supplied with the kit)?

Tim
24-08-2013, 03:08 AM
/<\\/p>[]<\\/p>/Quote from pablopepper on August 23, 2013, 10:32
Get a clear pickguard, spray the back.

Doing this is like painting r/c car bodies.
Mask and spray the back .
You may find that the tamiya spray cans work well for this application

pablopepper
24-08-2013, 03:22 AM
The problem with spraying the front is the paint will get scratched off over time. By painting the back of a clear plate, it will be protected. Water based paints won't adhere well to plastic. Best off with an acrylic paint.

keloooe
24-08-2013, 03:23 AM
Hey Pablo, are there any good sites that sell Strat guards in clear?
Or is anyone willing to do a specially made guard for me? I prefer a solid guard instead of a clear guard....

pablopepper
24-08-2013, 04:48 AM
EBay http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=161077071032

Or I could be convinced to make you one.

keloooe
24-08-2013, 04:59 AM
Hmmmm... all ya need is some pieces of white, red and blue acrylic and glue them together?
How much are you looking at Pab?

pablopepper
24-08-2013, 05:05 AM
I'd be making you a clear one. No chance of lining up with your design if I made it coloured.

keloooe
24-08-2013, 08:17 AM
What if I sent you a template, how accurate do you think you can get? I'll do the finishing after the guard is done to match up

pablopepper
24-08-2013, 10:31 AM
I guess it's possible, it's a lot more complicated. Depends on the design.

keloooe
24-08-2013, 12:19 PM
It's simple, just 3 pieces of material!

pablopepper
25-08-2013, 03:52 AM
Show me what you want.