Popping basswood grain using non black stain

[Old Tooth Hopkins]

Hi All,

Me and my very knowledgeable friend tested out some black wattyl spain on spare pine to see how the popped grain would look like.

We sanded it back and put honey oak stain on it and doesn't look overly good...to be fair we didn't put a lot of effort in the finesse....looks like pine furniture gone mouldy.

I floated the idea of using red stain (jarrah) to pop the grain before putting honey oak on it...

Has anyone popped grain using red before putting another colour on it?

Thanks

[Marcel]

I did one Tele build some time back where I used Wattle Rosewood stain on Alder and then sanded it back and did a yellow to Blue burst... I call it my Rainbow Tele due to all the colour effects that came through.

Blue on Rosewood stain turns Purple which is the edge.... Yellow on Rosewood heads toward the Red spectrum near the bridge. And of course Yellow and Blue gives green.... So a Rainbow of sorts is what I got...lol

It was my first attempt at a burst of any kind so ultimately it still looks a bit crap... Needs more work to finish it off, Any suggestions are most welcome...

[king casey]

Any suggestions are most welcome...

Well in that case hehe. I've taken my Tele back to the drawing board on many an occasion.
Once there, I'd re-shape that lower bout and correct the ill-fitting pickguard.

Of course if it was me.....but it aint is it?

cheers, Mark.

[Marcel]

Well in that case hehe. I've taken my Tele back to the drawing board on many an occasion.
Once there, I'd re-shape that lower bout and correct the ill-fitting pickguard.

Of course if it was me.....but it aint is it?

cheers, Mark.

Yeah... but...but...but it's a cheap fleabay piece of junk.... It's a stretch to even call it a Tele. Does it even deserve the effort??

[Old Tooth Hopkins]

So the stains mixed together huh?

If we waited a couple of weeks before the red stain to cure within the grain, would the new stain not mix with the old?

[king casey]

Does it even deserve the effort??

Maybe. maybe not.
I scored an el-cheapo strat copy from the pawnbroker and with a Pitbull neck, turned it into a good playing instrument.
It was headed for the skip otherwise.
The experience that I gleaned from that excersise was well worth the effort.

cheers, Mark.

(edit) It looks like that 'tele' has a strat shaped neck.

[Marcel]

(edit) It looks like that 'tele' has a strat shaped neck.

Surprising what you get when you buy the cheapest kit off Fleabay...

Actually the neck is closer to a baseball bat handle than any other neck I've ever encountered as I know even real '50's necks aren't as thick/chunky as that one. Nice piece of Alder but the cut is all wrong. For what it is it plays and sounds fine(ish)... As a 2nd ever build it is/was a good kit to practice on...

[wazkelly]

I have used same colour with water based inks but a lot stronger concentration as a first coat then wiped off as much as possible 24 hours later with a slightly damp rag, then applied lighter slightly diluted colour over that. End result is that where darker bits remained from 1st coat come out darker once 2nd coat is applied.

Check this out....Build # 3 in my signature below...


Cheers, Waz

Edit: Front is Flame Maple, back is Basswood and due to nature of various planks used it is really hard to POP basswood as evidenced in rear shots taken on same day...

[Old Tooth Hopkins]

Here are some test results.

Wattyl jarrah on, sand it back, then put honey oak on.


The second one is honey oak on top of black. Again, the sanding was a lukewarm effort but the streaks demonstrate the black underneath.



Thoughts and opinions much appreciated.




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