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    Why not cut a disc of abalone, then print the reverse part of your logo in black. Put that on the abalone. Clear over it and put that into the hole in the veneer?

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    There is a plastic / polyester that is quite strong as I used to use it for hinges on my RC planes and is easy to cut with a sharp knife called mylar which comes in various forms. It is used by draughtsmen for drawing and is used in the survival blankets so there are various thicknesses. From my understanding you are using a backing material so if the abalone breaks as it is brittle it will hold together via the backing. Most glues can be used with mylar, I used superglue and araldite but I am sure there are others. If you can get some thin double sided tape, I used a tape that is about the thickness of paper so there is no flex when pressure is applied via a knife so the abalone wont break, and use this to stick the mylar to a piece of wood then glue the abalone down onto the mylar. Once you cut out your design then use a solvent to dissolve the double sided tape glue to remove the item from the wood that doesn't react with the glue holding the abalone to the mylar. I used ethanol and am pretty sure it doesn't react with the mylar and superglue but it would need to be verified. Have used this method and material on a engraver machine I used to use with thin material with no problems which is another way of making your emblem as abalone is quite easy to engrave and cut out using an CNC engraver / router so if you know someone or can access such a machine would make your life a lot easier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic Mountain View Post
    Why not cut a disc of abalone, then print the reverse part of your logo in black. Put that on the abalone. Clear over it and put that into the hole in the veneer?
    It's going to need to be sanded when in place, so anything printed on top isn't gong to survive the sanding.

    I realised that I didn't need to cut right through the backing plastic as long as I could remove the unwanted bits of abalone, I almost managed one like that, apart from a small corner that kept breaking off every time I tried to trim it back. But the fact that I could separate the abalone from the backing plastic showed that the glue wasn't strong enough to keep the abalone attached regardless.

    I have now got some polyester ink jet printing film and have glued some of that onto the back of some more of the thin abalone sheet with superglue. Going to let that dry for a while and then see how I get on with that.
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    Well superglue didn't stick the plastic film to the abalone. It stuck to the abalone and left a nice clear covering when I simply peeled the plastic away with almost no force. The spray glue stuck it on much better.

    I've now got a jewellers saw and will give that a go, but today is one of those days where anything I touch goes wrong, so I'll try it out another day.
    Build #1 ES-3 under construction http://www.buildyourownguitar.com.au...ead.php?t=6489
    Build #2 EX-1 (with alder body) Yet to start. http://www.buildyourownguitar.com.au...093#post123093
    Build #3 Customised ES-1 for an ES-330 style build. http://www.buildyourownguitar.com.au...700#post158700
    Build #4 Customised ESB-4 Bass. http://www.buildyourownguitar.com.au...701#post158701

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    I'm sure you won't be beat Simon and crack it eventually, sometimes we need to sit back, move onto other things then go back to it with a fresh mind

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    Overlord of Music Simon Barden's Avatar
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    I will get there in the end. Now I've got the jewellers saw and had a quick go with it, I'm sure I'll find a way. I may even end up ordering some thicker abalone that's not quite so delicate.
    Build #1 ES-3 under construction http://www.buildyourownguitar.com.au...ead.php?t=6489
    Build #2 EX-1 (with alder body) Yet to start. http://www.buildyourownguitar.com.au...093#post123093
    Build #3 Customised ES-1 for an ES-330 style build. http://www.buildyourownguitar.com.au...700#post158700
    Build #4 Customised ESB-4 Bass. http://www.buildyourownguitar.com.au...701#post158701

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Barden View Post
    Well superglue didn't stick the plastic film to the abalone. It stuck to the abalone and left a nice clear covering when I simply peeled the plastic away with almost no force. The spray glue stuck it on much better.

    I've now got a jewellers saw and will give that a go, but today is one of those days where anything I touch goes wrong, so I'll try it out another day.
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