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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Barden View Post
    It's not a PBG kit.
    Yes, I bought my LP kit from the same website. They used to stock kits with Gibson shaped headstocks, then they revamped their website after what I can only assume was a similar notice that PBG received regarding the LP kit body shapes. Now they have recently reverted back to selling Gibson clones. I guess they are willing to take the risk and make that money while hoping they don't get hit with any penalties.

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    Why is it that this company can sell LP type kit and PBG can't. Maybe they just haven't been caught up with yet
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    The guy who runs it is actually based out of Australia and gets the kits from a Chinese factory.

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    I understand why Adam can't, but by rights this other guy should not be able to even import them over here, or any other guy. Just saying. Good for one good for all
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    Quote Originally Posted by JB RETRO View Post
    I understand why Adam can't, but by rights this other guy should not be able to even import them over here, or any other guy. Just saying. Good for one good for all
    Yeah I agree.
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    So it's the 'You don't know me from Adam' clause.

    cheers, Mark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JB RETRO View Post
    I understand why Adam can't, but by rights this other guy should not be able to even import them over here, or any other guy. Just saying. Good for one good for all
    I think your first statement summed it up JB. I'm sure big G will get around to him (again, apparently) eventually.
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    I have been doing some experimenting with black and blue stains.

    I would like to get some opinions on how much black dye is required to help the quilting to stand out and how deep the blue before it is too much
    See below some photos of an experiment with a piece of pine , starting with a light coat of black and 4 coats of blue

    Has anybody had much experience with ubeaut water dye on quilted maple?

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    I'm afraid I haven't used quilted veneers, or the ubeaut dyes, but of the stained examples you posted I like the last and second last best - the colour is the most even in those two. I quite like the slightly green tinge to the earlier tests, but for me at least the uniformity of the darker colour is nicer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denial View Post
    I have been doing some experimenting with black and blue stains.

    I would like to get some opinions on how much black dye is required to help the quilting to stand out and how deep the blue before it is too much
    See below some photos of an experiment with a piece of pine , starting with a light coat of black and 4 coats of blue.

    Has anybody had much experience with ubeaut water dye on quilted maple?

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    G'day mate. I did my TL-Q1 with Ubeaut stain. I think I used about 5 parts water to 1 part stain to pop the quilt, then sanded it back LIGHTLY! Try it out on scrap first and it is better to have it more diluted, then you can add another coat if required. The blue? All depends on the depth of colour you want and how the maple is absorbing the stain. Colour depth is always a personal taste thing. Again, start light and add more if required.

    If you are finishing with Tru-oil, don't forget that it will add a slight yellow hue to the finish. That could give you a slight green look. A clear coat finish is no problem.

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    Thanks IRL for the advise

    I have also been doing an experiment with Tung oil finish over some staining to see the effect an yes it tending towards a more green hue see below a couple of photos

    This is a scrap of silky oak veneer on mdf from an old project.
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    The first is with 1:5 black then about 1:3 blue with about 5 coats of hardened Tung oil
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    The second is with just 2 applications of blue no black
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    The third is with a stronger black with a little red added to the black, which " ubeaut" suggested would give a jet black and then the 1:3 blue
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    I was doing this to see which would help the grain to stand out

    In all cases the silky oak has taken on a more of a green hue ( quite nice like peacock blue green) , i am thinking the maple will have less influence on the blue dye ?

    I also did a piece of scrap ply with a lighter pine but it does not have a lot of grain to show up. One side is just blue an the other side is blue over black
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