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    hot and humid doesnt agree with acrylic spray paint either, good point Fretty

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    DB: thanks for the offer, really appreciate that I'll let you know how we go

    Hot and humid doesn't agree with me either :P

    Thanks for the guidance Stan. Any thoughts on the poly v nitro tone debate, or is it all rubbish as I suspect?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatmunkey View Post
    DB: thanks for the offer, really appreciate that I'll let you know how we go

    Hot and humid doesn't agree with me either :P

    Thanks for the guidance Stan. Any thoughts on the poly v nitro tone debate, or is it all rubbish as I suspect?
    That is a moot question indeed...
    Personally, I feel that Guitars covered in a layer of plastic dont sound as nice as ones finished in traditional finishes..... But this is a topic of hot debate amoungst Luthier circles.
    It would seem that the thinner you can get the finish the better, regardless of what finish you use.
    However, does it seem right to cover a natural material such as timber with a layer of plastic?
    Tone is derived from a combination of factors.
    Quality and type of timber used in the body and neck, the material the nut is made from and the bridge used...

    There is always a workaround for glitches, mistakes and other Guitar building gremlins.....

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    I see the concrete block guitar on youtube, and think "yeah it's all just pickups man," and then I pick up my dad's old 70s Bob Weir Ibanez and think "holy crapballs, nitro and wood and tone and all sorts of awesome." The 335 I built has super thin stain and truoil, and a bone nut, on a cheap and nasty kit, and it just sustains for days and sounds lovely. I'm with you DB, as far as a nice clean guitar goes, its all about wood and vibrations. But on something built for noise, I can't hear a difference.

    TL;DR: the TL-1 needs to have a thin coat. But when I build that Floyd wearing shredder, it'll be solid paint.

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    You got it in one... Things built for noise can be made out of anything.
    A lot of the Mosrites built in the late '70s early '80s were made from MDF...
    Then you have the plexiglass monstrosities...
    When players use the fuzz pedal tone is not even in the equation!

    There is always a workaround for glitches, mistakes and other Guitar building gremlins.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by dingobass View Post
    When players use the fuzz pedal tone is not even in the equation!
    You what now?!?

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    I had our fearless leader, Adam's 1970's Tele here for a pickup transplant and general service...
    That Guitar has tone!
    Unlike the pieces of cnc machined clone crap built by monkeys that Fender dish up these days, that Guitar has character, class and TONE!

    (Not having a shot at our guys like Jarrod who use a cnc.. The big difference is that unlike the bunnings rejects that churn out modern F and G brand Guitars, Jarrod is a player and he knows what he is doing)

    There is always a workaround for glitches, mistakes and other Guitar building gremlins.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by bargeloobs View Post
    You what now?!?
    Yep, tone is killed by distortion... Even a chipboard axe would sound great with the fuzz

    There is always a workaround for glitches, mistakes and other Guitar building gremlins.....

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    I love yankin ya chain, Bargie

    There is always a workaround for glitches, mistakes and other Guitar building gremlins.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by dingobass View Post
    Yep, tone is killed by distortion
    Don't tell Gary Moore, Mark Knopfler or Clapton that...

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